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shebeen

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If Mercedes AMG F1 design team can deliver him the fastest boat yes he has a chance. I think your slightly missing the point that I badly tried to put forward. In his last campaign he failed badly and that was largely his fault. He tried to do too much IMO. This time around it seems from the outside the funders have a different approach and have advised Ben accordingly. I think this time around could be their last unless they win the challenger series? I could be wrong but they need to win the series and face NZ for the Cup. As the challenger of record I think this must happen.
Agreed. If it informs anything, Ineos Gernadiers pro cycling as the best funded team have had their worst year on record by miles, but there is no talk of throwing in the towel.
Ben was wearing too many hats in auckland. So that kind of goes opposite against the "just there for the paycheque" idea.

The other issue is that maybe he is not the best driver, but i don't see him giving that up. Dual helm will inform that.

but yes, it really does come down mainly to the boat. Jimmy Spithill won the AC twice, both with the better boat. then he lost it in the next two finals to Peter Burling who both times had the better boat. I don't think that proves much of them as sailors. I have a sneaking suspision that the design team could throw a lot of combined marginal gains and come up with a rocketship here that makes it a cakewalk come sailing time.
 

Varan

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Simple mast step.

From a shitload of pictures
 

enigmatically2

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So does this mean the end of towing and no single hull towing?

A lot less towing than I expected from Ben's comments. Presumably they verified what they needed, possibly more quickly than they feared or even expected
 

Stingray~

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So does this mean the end of towing and no single hull towing?

A lot less towing than I expected from Ben's comments. Presumably they verified what they needed, possibly more quickly than they feared or even expected
Yes, sure looks like a good step towards sailing. Although they could continue to tow for a time as Ben has indicated, with or without the 'tow' mast or this new one stepped. 'Silver Arrow' is new to me, did Justin Chisholm coin the name?
 

terrafirma

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Can't wait to see the Silver Arrow sailing. What a heritage the Silver Arrow has.!

Why are F1 called Silver Arrows?





The constructor first got the title Silver Arrows in the 1930s when silver was synonymous with German racing cars. Allegedly, the origin was as a weight-saving scheme by not painting the bare metal of early cars. But since modern F1 cars are primarily made of carbon fiber, it's very much a choice in 2022

silver_arrows_top_stage.jpeg
 

nav

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But it's "Rita" right?
"Silver Arrow" would indicate undue influence from Brackley.....and we have been solidly assured that is not the case - sailors not car-boffins are in charge ;)
 

JALhazmat

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Ffs Gladwell said it as a term of phrase.

undue influence? lol
it wasn’t a official name change, “from this day forth the boat formerly known at T6 shall be referred to at all times as ‘silver arrow’ “

taking what one journalists said, and drawing the conclusion that certain people are in charge, ia ludicrous
 

richardgladwell

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Ffs Gladwell said it as a term of phrase.

undue influence? lol
it wasn’t a official name change, “from this day forth the boat formerly known at T6 shall be referred to at all times as ‘silver arrow’ “

taking what one journalists said, and drawing the conclusion that certain people are in charge, ia ludicrous
Silver Arrow is not a name I conceived - the story came from AC.com and was just republished with proper attribution, with some more images from RFS.

Just journalistic licence, I think

Officially it is still T6 as far as I know.

RG
 

The_Alchemist

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So does this mean the end of towing and no single hull towing?

A lot less towing than I expected from Ben's comments. Presumably they verified what they needed, possibly more quickly than they feared or even expected
Hasn't all of their testing so far been pulling it directly behind the tow boat with both foils in the water. Would it be better to pull the boat at an angle and simulate one foil sailing by pulling it from the mast?
 

enigmatically2

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Hasn't all of their testing so far been pulling it directly behind the tow boat with both foils in the water. Would it be better to pull the boat at an angle and simulate one foil sailing by pulling it from the mast?
That's what the assumption was from the stub mast and the assertion that lots of tow testing would be done. But perhaps not. Who knows
 

JonRowe

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That's what the assumption was from the stub mast and the assertion that lots of tow testing would be done. But perhaps not. Who knows
Theres was an enquiry opened about the towing mast:


Which then resulted in this intepretation:


The TL;DR is that it would count as their mast tube if they used it
 
Theres was an enquiry opened about the towing mast:


Which then resulted in this intepretation:


The TL;DR is that it would count as their mast tube if they used it
How the fuck did they miss that? What a fuck up.
 

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