INEOS Team GB

[barfy]

Surely the only way of raising ride height is longer rudder and foil arm?

Growing some, I mean being more comfortable with more height could do the trick.

 

[Sailbydate]

Growing some, I mean being more comfortable with more height could do the trick.

It's definitely quicker.

 

[Sailbydate]

They look like they're flying the windward foil out of the water more consistently. Could be the sea state though.

Could this foil arm design with high elbow be to reduce ventilation down the foil arm? May give cleaner data for side and up forces? Ventilation occurs quicker further away from perpendicular intersection of waters surface.

But what would be the point, unless it turns out to be Rule compliant?

 

[Horn Rock]

apparently there were voids where the aluminium and foam cores don't properly meet up*

I'm no boat builder, but how would you fix that? Is that a failure in the vacuum bagging process, where resin hasn't fully penetrated? Or does McConaghy use an Autoclave?

 

[NZK]

I'm no boat builder, but how would you fix that? Is that a failure in the vacuum bagging process, where resin hasn't fully penetrated? Or does McConaghy use an Autoclave?

Unfortunately I too am not a boat builder - so we'll have to leave it more experienced minds, or more opinionated fingers, to make suggestions as how this might be repaired.

 

[The_Alchemist]

The Frackers not looking that clean in the lumpy stuff.

They very rough going

 

[captainSackSparrow]

But what would be the point, unless it turns out to be Rule compliant?

If it's for data collection only, i.e. they want clean data at different depths/ cants that would match the 75.

Potentially for testing purposes they may be able to run more cant to give side force, but have the foil still deep enough to avoid ventilation. I'm not sure how the geometry works out though.

 

[buckdouger]

Unfortunately I too am not a boat builder - so we'll have to leave it more experienced minds, or more opinionated fingers, to make suggestions as how this might be repaired.

You could open up the skin and create a better core interface by removing some material and adding new core with a cleaner boundary, and then scarf a new skin over it.

You could also try to drill into it and inject resin maybe with microballoon filler or another reinforcement.

You could live with a bad core joint and laminate additional skin to stiffen the outside of the sandwich which would distribute shear stress over a wider core area.

You could add a stiffening web to achieve the same.

Hard to guess without more details.

 

[Stingray~]

If it's bad they should demand a replacement hull.

And if it's bad, then you have to wonder about the hull Alinghi received too.

It would surely not be too hard to fly hulls instead of ship them.

 

[JALhazmat]

You could open up the skin and create a better core interface by removing some material and adding new core with a cleaner boundary, and then scarf a new skin over it.

You could also try to drill into it and inject resin maybe with microballoon filler or another reinforcement.

You could live with a bad core joint and laminate additional skin to stiffen the outside of the sandwich which would distribute shear stress over a wider core area.

You could add a stiffening web to achieve the same.

Hard to guess without more details.

What’s this about? Has anyone actually confirmed there is an issue? as in from the team?

 

[ChairborneRanger]

You could open up the skin and create a better core interface by removing some material and adding new core with a cleaner boundary, and then scarf a new skin over it.

You could also try to drill into it and inject resin maybe with microballoon filler or another reinforcement.

You could live with a bad core joint and laminate additional skin to stiffen the outside of the sandwich which would distribute shear stress over a wider core area.

You could add a stiffening web to achieve the same.

Hard to guess without more details.

yeah, any issues are possible to fix. If ETNZ can replace a bow in 3 weeks, any minor bonding issues sound easy.

 

[dg_sailingfan]

Chaos Team, Joke Team - Enough said!

 

[ChairborneRanger]

Chaos Team, Joke Team - Enough said!

The g stands for "Grumpy" right?

 

[Stingray~]

The INEOS Britannia battle-wagon rolled on again with another outstanding performance from the sailing test team who barely put a foot wrong all day on the water, churning out the data collection miles and then showing us some balletic turn-ups at pace, blistering gybes with very interesting and powerful low exit flight, and some whipsaw fast foil-to-foil tacks.

Ben Cornish, something of an unheralded secret-weapon in the INEOS Britannia armoury, returned to testing duties on the wheel opposite Giles Scott with Leigh McMillan and Luke Parkinson taking the lion’s share of the pod duties. Bleddyn Mon, the vital tech-link between the sailors and the analysts, swapped in for Parkinson late in the afternoon and the team just didn’t miss a beat. Multiple flight modes were in full test and on display. Sheeting was co-ordinated and positive. And the day was a fabulous mix of getting what was required done early and then letting the sailors sail. Jeff Causey summed it up rather accurately afterwards when he said wryly: “There's technical priorities and there’s their sailing priorities so the day is always a balance of trying to arm wrestle between the two.”

 

[Sailbydate]

The INEOS Britannia battle-wagon rolled on again with another outstanding performance from the sailing test team who barely put a foot wrong all day on the water, churning out the data collection miles and then showing us some balletic turn-ups at pace, blistering gybes with very interesting and powerful low exit flight, and some whipsaw fast foil-to-foil tacks.

Ben Cornish, something of an unheralded secret-weapon in the INEOS Britannia armoury, returned to testing duties on the wheel opposite Giles Scott with Leigh McMillan and Luke Parkinson taking the lion’s share of the pod duties. Bleddyn Mon, the vital tech-link between the sailors and the analysts, swapped in for Parkinson late in the afternoon and the team just didn’t miss a beat. Multiple flight modes were in full test and on display. Sheeting was co-ordinated and positive. And the day was a fabulous mix of getting what was required done early and then letting the sailors sail. Jeff Causey summed it up rather accurately afterwards when he said wryly: “There's technical priorities and there’s their sailing priorities so the day is always a balance of trying to arm wrestle between the two.”

Some good footage of that main traveller working hard - it's biggish bites and pretty rapid. Looks like they are flying T6 a fair bit higher a lot of the time too.

Looking good.

 

[dg_sailingfan]

Sorry @Sailbydate
I can't wait for the British America's Cup Challenge Nightmare to be over AND it will be over for the forseeable future after 2024.
Ainslie is a little bit of a thug and has no clue how to manage an AC Team. And Ratcliffe has already lost interest. There will be other Sporting Endeavours where Jim will be far more successful.

 

[MR.CLEAN]

My 7-year old asked me details on capitalization use today. I printed out a few of your posts to show her that even adults are sometimes never taught how to use it properly. I'm sad for you, but thanks for providing lesson material.

 

[Sailbydate]

Glad to see the Moderators take their job seriously here 'bouts. How bad could things get without this input?

 

[The_Alchemist]

My 7-year old asked me details on capitalization use today. I printed out a few of your posts to show her that even adults are sometimes never taught how to use it properly. I'm sad for you, but thanks for providing lesson material.

Really? It is a fckg discussion board, not an english comp class! Just because people may not edit out a mistake does not mean they are uneducated.

Are we now required to use Grammarly?

What a pompous post!

 

[nav]

The INEOS Britannia battle-wagon rolled on again with another outstanding performance from the sailing test team who barely put a foot wrong all day on the water, churning out the data collection miles and then showing us some balletic turn-ups at pace, blistering gybes with very interesting and powerful low exit flight, and some whipsaw fast foil-to-foil tacks.

Ben Cornish, something of an unheralded secret-weapon in the INEOS Britannia armoury, returned to testing duties on the wheel opposite Giles Scott with Leigh McMillan and Luke Parkinson taking the lion’s share of the pod duties. Bleddyn Mon, the vital tech-link between the sailors and the analysts, swapped in for Parkinson late in the afternoon and the team just didn’t miss a beat. Multiple flight modes were in full test and on display. Sheeting was co-ordinated and positive. And the day was a fabulous mix of getting what was required done early and then letting the sailors sail. Jeff Causey summed it up rather accurately afterwards when he said wryly: “There's technical priorities and there’s their sailing priorities so the day is always a balance of trying to arm wrestle between the two.”

That description must surely be paid for content by INEOS!? I saw two boards down, towing up onto foils, rounding up and bearing away on the same board, about the only board to board maneuver took ages and even then cut away before the new windward board had been raised....but sure "balletic", "whipsaw fast" fill your boots