Installing a composting toilet.

Scuff

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I read your initial post and got worried that c-head had gone under after changing management. I'm building a new boat and the regular one fits my space. I emailed them this morning and had a response just after lunch. Waiting on a shipping estimate to get final price. Their response indicated a 3-4 week lead time to build and 3-4 days for shipping. It does appear from their website they only offer the standard and short version now.

 

Blue Crab

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I read your initial post and got worried that c-head had gone under after changing management. I'm building a new boat and the regular one fits my space. I emailed them this morning and had a response just after lunch. Waiting on a shipping estimate to get final price. Their response indicated a 3-4 week lead time to build and 3-4 days for shipping. It does appear from their website they only offer the standard and short version now.
Anyone thinking of a composter is capable of modifying the CHead cabinet to fit. It's not rotomolded plastic.

 

thinwater

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I really don't get the < 15 gallon holding tanks. Mine is 30 gallons.

And honestly, most places you can just "pump" if it is an emergency. I wouldn't stress about it. I do follow the rules as much as practical.

 

Kris Cringle

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Anyone thinking of a composter is capable of modifying the CHead cabinet to fit. It's not rotomolded plastic.
Good to know. I think the friend who has the discontinued stepped base said that it was a combination of the taller housing and the 'shorty' bucket.

From what you say, it may just require them selling you those two parts if you want to make the alteration yourself (sounds easy to me). 

From research, the real market for composting heads is the RV, van conversion and tiny housing that are driving this growing industry. 

 

kent_island_sailor

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I really don't get the < 15 gallon holding tanks. Mine is 30 gallons.

And honestly, most places you can just "pump" if it is an emergency. I wouldn't stress about it. I do follow the rules as much as practical.
Dumping a holding tank is WAY nastier than a head flush. Please be kind picking a spot to do that!  My marina is basically a big swimming pool with a narrow channel leading out AND the pumpout is totally free, but someone was such a lazy ass they dumped a whole tank instead of moving to the fuel dock and it took days to get rid of it  :angry:

 
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accnick

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Dumping a holding tank is WAY nastier than a head flush. Please be kind picking a spot to do that!  My marina is basically a big swimming pool with a narrow channel leading out AND the pumpout is totally free, but someone was such a lazy ass they dumped a whole tank instead of moving to the fuel dock and it took days to get rid of it  :angry:
That is both rude and illegal.

 

Kris Cringle

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Probably not easy to determine the culprit :(
And everybody with a holding tank that can be pumped overboard, knows that. 

We're lucky up here, the anchorages are big and boats are few. But I remember many places on the coast, especially down south on the snowbird path, with many boats inside. Even in the Bahamas in some of the popular 'holes', your nose would tell you swimming was not a good idea. 

 
When we arrived in Annapolis MD in May of 2018 The nice man who was taking our money for the mooring mentioned pump out stations. I told him we had a composter and he said to keep it quiet and not tell the harbourmaster since they were illegal there. Is this true? I have heard of some push back in places but downright illegal is a new one. 

 

kent_island_sailor

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When we arrived in Annapolis MD in May of 2018 The nice man who was taking our money for the mooring mentioned pump out stations. I told him we had a composter and he said to keep it quiet and not tell the harbourmaster since they were illegal there. Is this true? I have heard of some push back in places but downright illegal is a new one. 
They are legal in Annapolis and anywhere else, the guy was an idiot. He may have got confused with a Lecta-San treatment system, which are not legal in all parts of the Chesapeake. BTW, in Annapolis the pump-out boat comes to you.

 
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They are legal in Annapolis and anywhere else, the guy was an idiot. He may have got confused with a Lecta-San treatment system, which are not legal in all parts of the Chesapeake. BTW, in Annapolis the pump-out boat comes to you.
Got it, had my doubts about his statement but kept my head down anyway. Yes, I recall now seeing the the honeywagon putzing about in the mooring field.

 

smj

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When we arrived in Annapolis MD in May of 2018 The nice man who was taking our money for the mooring mentioned pump out stations. I told him we had a composter and he said to keep it quiet and not tell the harbourmaster since they were illegal there. Is this true? I have heard of some push back in places but downright illegal is a new one. 
We heard the same thing.

 

Kris Cringle

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I am still back and forth on this. If toilet paper has to get saved separately it will be a total non-starter with the Admiral. How bad does paper mess these up?
Since beginning this journey, I've come onto so much info I wasn't aware of. I've recently joined an internet group of composters out of the UK. There are lots of long boat owners. They're are serious over there! Way advanced of most composting head info. Some of these longboat owners move their solids to composters of some kind on the roof and are planting flowers with compost right now. 

Many of the members are also in camper vans just like here in the US.

There is this very question asked today by a camper van owner: 


I’ve built myself a waterless/compost loo in my campervan and recently added an agitator to stir the contents which has been a game changer for smells! (previously I was just ‘layering’ poos with coir and wood savings)



However I find it gets really stiff to turn after a week or so of use and I have to empty it even though there’s still plenty of room in the bucket. It does get used 2 to 3 times a day though, so is this normal?



Also for those of you who have a toilet of this type do you put the toilet paper in the bucket with the agitator or in a separate container – I’m wondering whether that’s making it stiffer to turn quicker than it would otherwise?

 

thinwater

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I really don't get the < 15 gallon holding tanks. Mine is 30 gallons.

And honestly, most places you can just "pump" if it is an emergency. I wouldn't stress about it. I do follow the rules as much as practical.
A marina is not an emergency. They probably have pump out, and if they don't there are shore-side facilities. I did not mean to imply that gross behavior is acceptable.

What I meant was discharging someplace that passes the "red face" test but perhaps not the 3-mile test (which is a number picked to match the coastal waters definition, not because there is a scientific basis for 2 miles vs. 5 miles).

 

thinwater

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I am still back and forth on this. If toilet paper has to get saved separately it will be a total non-starter with the Admiral. How bad does paper mess these up?
Not that bad. Put the TP in to start, and then you can change if her view changes. If not, you're still OK. I put the TP in. If I separate it I can go more than twice as long... but it works either way.

 

Spokey Doke

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Not that bad. Put the TP in to start, and then you can change if her view changes. If not, you're still OK. I put the TP in. If I separate it I can go more than twice as long... but it works either way.
So you add coir and/or wood shavings, but not TP - a bit confusing given what TP is made of...perhaps not coarse enough fibers?

 
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