IOR landfills?

12 metre · Nov 18, 2022

SloopJonB said:
Full on cruiser, not IOR.

Assuming that is a Landfall 38 - the hull is from the C&C38-2 except with shorter rig, shallower foils and reworked transom.

Since the C&C 38-2 was definitely an IOR boat, one could make the argument that because they share the same hull shape, the Landfall 38 by extension is also an IOR boat.

Although I wouldn't

SloopJonB · Nov 18, 2022

There weren't a hell of a lot of boats built in that era that didn't have at least a nod to IOR - if they had any "performance" implications in their marketing.

LordBooster · Nov 18, 2022

LordBooster · Nov 18, 2022

Crash · Nov 18, 2022

SloopJonB said:
There weren't a hell of a lot of boats built in that era that didn't have at least a nod to IOR - if they had any "performance" implications in their marketing.

Certainly has most of the hallmarks of an IOR hull. Draft of appendages, reduced sail area, etc would likely hurt it’s performance vs a pure IOR racer of like size (1 tonner?)

LordBooster · Nov 19, 2022

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LordBooster · Nov 20, 2022

bridhb · Nov 20, 2022

Did a Daytona to Bermuda race on one of these back in the late 1980's"

We were 2nd boat to finish and corrected out to first place in a few classes (stupid shit like "w/female on board") and the owner / skipper was happy with all the trophies. Only boat that beat us in was a C&C 61, which the post above got me thinking about. From what the crew on a C&C 43 that finished behind us and owed us time said, the skipper/owner was really pissed and went ballistic when he heard us call in for the committee boat at the finish.

That race let me know I really loved ocean sailing.

I know they are supposed to be squirrelly, but I remember running before a pretty big sea with the spinnaker up and not having all that much trouble keeping it together. Maybe that is just time passing "improving" my memory.

Weyalan · Nov 20, 2022

1979 built Peter Joubert 1/4 tonner

Recently acquired... for less than the cost of the last sail I bought for the previous (40') boat.

JEA · Nov 20, 2022

bridhb said:
Did a Daytona to Bermuda race on one of these back in the late 1980's"
View attachment 554743

We were 2nd boat to finish and corrected out to first place in a few classes (stupid shit like "w/female on board") and the owner / skipper was happy with all the trophies. Only boat that beat us in was a C&C 61, which the post above got me thinking about. From what the crew on a C&C 43 that finished behind us and owed us time said, the skipper/owner was really pissed and went ballistic when he heard us call in for the committee boat at the finish.

That race let me know I really loved ocean sailing.

I know they are supposed to be squirrelly, but I remember running before a pretty big sea with the spinnaker up and not having all that much trouble keeping it together. Maybe that is just time passing "improving" my memory.

my family had hull #11. was a grwt boat.

LordBooster · Nov 21, 2022

Weyalan said:
1979 built Peter Joubert 1/4 tonner View attachment 554746
Recently acquired... for less than the cost of the last sail I bought for the previous (40') boat.

Nice! Did only know about this QT by Peter Joubert:

Document sans titre

LordBooster · Nov 21, 2022

Weyalan said:
1979 built Peter Joubert 1/4 tonner View attachment 554746
Recently acquired... for less than the cost of the last sail I bought for the previous (40') boat.

What is her name?

LordBooster · Nov 21, 2022

Weyalan · Nov 21, 2022

LordBooster said:
What is her name?

She is called Bandit.

As far as I have been able to ascertain she is a "Koala" design, built by Savage Marine in Melbourne. She is definitely more of a cruiser-racer than an outright racer, being built like the proverbial brick sh1th*use. A previous owner told me she has done a Melbourne to Devonport race, and has crossed bass straight 4 times. I have no such ambitions for her, but some local cruising and racing might be on the cards once she has had a little TLC

LordBooster · Nov 21, 2022

carcrash · Nov 21, 2022

LordBooster said:

Stephen Jones 44. Was this the quarter tonner or half tonner? That is a joke, of course. Jones made the biggest boats to a given rating of anyone back then. Ganbare and Terrorist were 35', whereas Stephen Jones one tonner was 43 or 44 feet loa.

Odd Job was the coolest IOR boat I ever saw, and was designed by Stephen Jones. A very creative designer, Jones also designed some beautiful long skinny boats such as the Rustler 33.

12 metre · Nov 21, 2022

carcrash said:
Stephen Jones 44. Was this the quarter tonner or half tonner? That is a joke, of course. Jones made the biggest boats to a given rating of anyone back then. Ganbare and Terrorist were 35', whereas Stephen Jones one tonner was 43 or 44 feet loa.

Odd Job was the coolest IOR boat I ever saw, and was designed by Stephen Jones. A very creative designer, Jones also designed some beautiful long skinny boats such as the Rustler 33.

I agree, I've always admired his designs - and Oddjob was the coolest looking thing back in 1973.
Below are a couple of old photos of Oddjob from the QTC in '73

Lot's of people will disagree though - and I'm sure SJB will be on here shortly to do just that, as is his habit.

Looking into this Jones 44, I found an ad from Thailand for it https://henri-captain.com/boats/stephen-jones-44-feet-3-bedrooms-fiber/. Turns out this boat must be Dream Machine - the boat Wink Vogel had built in Vancouver before he bought Mad Max. They have since built quite an impressive cabin in her massive interior. At least compared to how I remember her from her days in Canada.