IOR landfills?

mathystuff

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Its German and sailing in Danish waters. What do I win? Plus it looks tike the coachroof was put on soft and pushed out from underneath for more headroom.
Coachroof is fixed. It is german designed and build, tho. There should be at least 4 of these boats. I've seen two.

Different angle:

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LordBooster

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Most likely an early Holland One Tonner. Turtle deck means she could not be a Shamrock 30 due to the headroom requirements of the Half Ton class, which almost always meant an actual cabin - unless the boat had a humongous amount of freeboard.

Below are a couple of early Holland One Tons circa 1974: Billycan and Offwego. May even be Offwego.

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Agree: "Offwego K 3662 Holland 1974 built in wood by McWilliam, 1974 One Ton Cup, Torbay: ?e/33, Ian Gibbs (NZ);", see: http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/One Tonner/Holland.htm
 

Dart96

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And added confirmation from Face book post:
"It's a delta 36 one ton cup by Ron Holland built in 1974 in kinsale by Holland himself, formally "offwego" sister to "billycan" later called expulsion then Matilda. She is for sale!."
 

SPORTSCAR

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Not a landfill.
The original Farr keelboat design. Restored to original but yet to go sailing again. Someone has done a great job.

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Klinger was a near sister to the prototype Farr designs Titus Canby and Tohe Candu. Klinger was built in NZ and delivered to Sydney. She was originally a bilious green colour , I took that photo at the CYCA in the early 1970s. Suggesting she looks much better in her white livery. Only 27ft LOA, Klinger went on to win a Brisbane-Gladstone in a hard downwind race and had many other successes.
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Klinger was a near sister to the prototype Farr designs Titus Canby and Tohe Candu. Klinger was built in NZ and delivered to Sydney. She was originally a bilious green colour , I took that photo at the CYCA in the early 1970s. Suggesting she looks much better in her white livery. Only 27ft LOA, Klinger went on to win a Brisbane-Gladstone in a hard downwind race and had many other successes. View attachment 574523 View attachment 574524 View attachment 574525 View attachment 574526
It won the Sydney - Mooloolaba Race in 1976 not the Brisbane - Gladstone I seem to recall.
 

LordBooster

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Not a landfill.
The original Farr keelboat design. Restored to original but yet to go sailing again. Someone has done a great job.

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Roscoe Guiniven at the FB group today: "Titus Canby, I made the original sails for it, sailed on it and went to La Rochelle for the 1974 World 1/2 Ton champs, also won the the Britannia cup, Cowes week beforehand, A boat well ahead of it's time, and kicked off Farr's keelboat career. Great times, great people. Those were the days"
 

LordBooster

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Gary Baigent (Light Brigade): "Bruce Farr arrived in Auckland from the fishing harbour of Leigh. He had theories counter to proven
principles of the day beginning from wins in his own designed and built International Moth in 1965; in 1966 he
produced a small catamaran and the next year his first keel boat for a Royal Akarana Yacht Club competition.
This boat was–similar to his later Titus Canby but in 1968 the conservative Akarana judges were
unimpressed – or more likely terrified by its looks and considered it in their terms, “too way out.”
As an 18 year old Farr worked with Young as a boatbuilder and draftsman and at the same time designed
12 and 18 footers during nights and weekends. In 1971 after leaving Young’s boat shed he designed bargain
basement racer Titus Canby for Rob Blackburn; this design revealed a philosophy that was unacceptable to many
people but Farr was unswerving in his direction and remarked in Sea Spray magazine: “Displacement means
expense and anyway I prefer light displacement – I’m looking for enough stability and weight for good windward
sailing but I still want a boat that is light enough to plane and surf downwind. Titus Canby was a Half Ton design but radically different to the normal shape of boat; it had broad after
sections for fast reaching and running while the forward sections were fine for wedging through the Hauraki
Gulf chop. Like Stewart, Spencer and Young, Farr drew a keel with weight down low with a swelling fin bottom
but unlike the more established local designers whose rigs were usually masthead, (excepting Townson’s Pied
Piper and Nelson’s Vim) Farr had a fractional 7/8ths rig on Titus Canby and this carried a small headsail and for
the times, a relatively large main. The yacht looked very different and critics were angered by the threatening
change and were quick to point out faults – often of a minor and superficial nature, “poor paint quality,”
sneered one sailing lawyer, but truthfully, Titus Canby was a high wooded and blocky looking with a long cabin
almost equal in height to hull freeboard. It was not a beautiful yacht but it was a practical one for Gulf racing
and cruising – it was also very fast and rudely flashed its broad transom to the 1972 Half Ton fleet.
Farr had blithely drawn his first offshore design with an eye cocked only casually towards the IOR; he
was just drawing boats the way he thought they should be, drawing on experience learned from designs of
Stewart, Young, Spencer and Townson – he had no intention of being the enfant terrible of the yachting world –
or so he said on the record.”, see:
https://www.coolmobility.com.au/Yacht/LightBrigade.pdf
 

A CheeseHead

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It was an odd time the late IOR period. Fantastic fleets, great racing and many beautiful looking boats that were absolute cunts of things to sail. Back them most owners actually knew how to sail and as a pro you could get as pissed as you like in the beer tent and no one gave a shit. As the old saying goes If you can remember the Hawaiian regattas in the early 80’s...you weren’t there.

Never got near Hawai'i, but raced IOR boats from 1971 through 1984. Most of 'em went upwind like boats were expected to. We had a few broaches on the C&C 30 we raced, but that was mostly because we pressed our luck. True, most owners knew how to sail - or kept quiet when we amateurs told them what to do. We respected the pros (we called 'em BNs) ... and drank with them.
 

jhc

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Incidentally, that’s the way cotton sails were sewn until Nathaniel Hereshoff made his horizontal so they wouldn’t deflect the wind the way the old, saggy cotton sails of the day did. Each vertical panel would quickly blow out and they attained non aerodynamically becoming shapes at every angle..
The difference with those vertically oriented sails is more about cloth construction than other considerations. Warp and fill are the two axis of cloth. The vertical panel sails use cloth that is constructed with the straight fibers running the length of the panel. Cross cut sails on the other hand use cloth that has the straight fibers running across the panel, and the crimped, or woven fibers running the length of the panel. There is less stretch on the axis with the straight fibers.
 

bridhb

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Anyone want a close to full original IOR experience, here's one. Winches still at the mast, original trav, interior in great shape!

I looked at that boat a few months ago. Deck looked in good shape. Hull needs a paint job. It would be nice but I have my own IOR ish boat to worry about. Got it back in the water yesterday after a quick bottom job. I do love some vintage C&C though.
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