IOR landfills?

[SloopJonB]

wait.....there's boats out there that one can MAKE MONEY from??

New builds are supposed to be profitable.

Brand new 45 year old boats, probably not so much.

 

[LordBooster]

 

[floater]

It's too skinny to be IOR..

actually not true. the Bianca 414 has quite a bit less beam than the omega. and it's designed as an IOR boat. they just seem to like 'em skinny up there.

length and beam Omega 42: 41.99, 10.17

length and beam Bianca 414: 41.33, 9.55 (and yes, this was designed to race IOR).

 

[LordBooster]

 

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[Go Left]

You know the boat! Great upwind. Great in light air. Crazy downwind in a breeze and significant seas. But everyone here already knows that just looking at her.

I'd love to know where she is today.

Probably renamed "Endswapper" and safely sailing on the Salton Sea.

 

[Go Left]

"This is a project vessel that will need immediate attention prior to putting her back in the water. I would estimate that it will take $20,000 to get her sailing again, not including deck repairs."

That's the estimate for paying the yard bill to get them to put her in the water. That's "sailing", right?

 

[LordBooster]

 

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[See Level]

Are those cobwebs? 😄

 

[knh555]

Are those cobwebs? 😄

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That’s a Bimini that’s rates slower than it is.

 

[LordBooster]

 

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[floater]

that rig. am I wrong in thinking that this boat demonstrates just why Farr was ahead of his time?

 

[billy backstay]

that rig. am I wrong in thinking that this boat demonstrates just why Farr was ahead of his time?

Ahead of his time in what way? Having a very small fractional jib? Many OD's have been like that for eons.

 

[floater]

but IOR boats? and in fact. big race boats in general since IOR was pretty much definitional at the time.

and IOR was all about the overlapping headsail. narrow pintailed boat. Farr through all that out pretty early on. (or so it seems to me).

 

[12 metre]

but IOR boats? and in fact. big race boats in general since IOR was pretty much definitional at the time.

and early IOR was all about the overlapping headsail. narrow pintailed boat. Farr The Kiwis (Farr, Davidson, Whiting, et al) through all that out pretty early on. (or so it seems to me).

FIFY.
The boat in question (Le Truck) has genoa tracks in the deck photo below. She is looking much worse for the wear these days.

The IOR boat you describe was typical up until '76/'77. Then the lightweight fracs with wide sterns took over. Even Peterson had one in the '77 OTC (Pioneer sound but sailed as B195 thanks to Rule 26): http://rbsailing.blogspot.com/2013/07/b195-peterson-one-tonner.html

B195 had a daggerboard as well, as did most of the top boats until they were effectively banned (not banned per se, but rule changes made them less desirable).

While it was not required to have overlapping headsails, IOR assumed a baseline LP of something like 155%. Anything greater was penalized, but there was no credit for having less. So it made no sense to have anything less than a 155 as your largest headsail.

All along IOR favoured large low aspect ratio mains with smaller high aspect headsail. Anyone who has looked through the old rule book and spend 10 minutes analyzing the RSAT calculations will spot this immediately. I used to sail on a Peterson 35 pintail and in the early 80's the owner got a new boom and main 2.5 ft longer in the foot. Actual sail area increased by 55 sq ft but RSAT only went up by 11 sq ft.

Why they initially went with MH rigs and ribbony mains I have no idea other than maybe that sort of sail plan worked with heavier pintail designs. It did allow a huge kite.

Now it got really interesting if you had no headsail at all. This was the loophole boats like Milgram's Cat Ketch Cascade and the Mini ton French Cat Sloop L'Effraie sailed though.