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Sail12m

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Sail12m

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Engine placement was part of the rating game. The exhaust came out near the chain plates. A rubber hose had to go over it downward so the fumes weren’t as bad blowing back over the boat. Worked ok not great.

 

LordBooster

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I don't know, that hull certainly has enough weird bumps and appendages to be optimized for rating and not for speed.
Hehe!

Yes, somewhat of IOR influenced. Maybe Whiting. But to bring her rating down to even that of 2-tonners deserves a really good chainsaw.

 

LordBooster

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Thanks for the drawings! Well, I think Laurie Davidson got inspiration in only one single aspect from Paul Whiting, depth volume (from Light Brigade by Gary Baigent):

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk037QaHk88_yyMhDiORRM33IErKXkQ%3A1608585458051&source=hp&ei=8RDhX7nzPOPrrgSroLhY&q=%22laurie+davidson%22+%22light+brigade%22+depth-volume&oq=%22laurie+davidson%22+%22light+brigade%22&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQARgAMgcIIxCuAhAnMgcIIxCuAhAnOgcIIxDqAhAnOgcILhDqAhAnOgQIIxAnOgQILhAnOgcILhAnEJMCOgQILhBDOgUIABCxAzoLCAAQsQMQxwEQowI6DggAELEDEIMBEMcBEKMCOggIABCxAxCDAToECAAQQzoICC4QsQMQgwE6CAgAEMcBEKMCOgIIADoFCC4QywE6AgguOgUIABDLAToLCAAQxwEQrwEQywE6BggAEBYQHlDwHVjR2gFggfgBaAFwAHgAgAF8iAHzFpIBBDI4LjWYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEK&sclient=psy-ab

[SIZE=11.5pt]“But Davidson was critical, “Paul Whiting’s designs are join up the dots boats and they aren’t pretty. But it took courage to do what he did in the forward sections because, with the extreme hollow on the waterline, he had to get deep volume in that area, and that was very cleverly done. But I think the overall effect was horrific and his boats were no good unless Murray Ross was sailing them.””[/SIZE]

[SIZE=11.5pt]And that is what you see in Newspaper Taxi vs Pendragon. The original design of Waverider was roughly a scaled up version of Fun. Now compare the original design of Waverider and the modified Waverider. Davidson had to increase its displacement. Here, among other things, went for depth volume. This does not answer the question if Whiting's designs got more distorted with time, but maybe this does (Pendragon is the main subject but Riotous Assembly designed -78 is dealt with as well) and compare with Magic Bus from -76:[/SIZE]
Dear Laurie, we shall not forget Hugh Treharne: "The 1/4 tonner 'Seaply' (KA-101) was designed by Paul Whiting to be built in plywood. She was quoated as being lighter and with a bigger sail area than 'Magic Bus'. Skipper Hugh Treharne finished 3rd with her at the heavy wind 1978 (sailed in January 1979) Quarter Ton Cup in Japan. She was designed for light winds which were expected, and won the only light wind race by about seven minutes.", according toehttp://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Quarter Tonner/Q Whitting Seaply.htm?fbclid=IwAR1mxxJCISzq2UM7fsfyaliUPvWRNkw2Mzcqc9Kdnt-7ec95sgY4WEkHnV8t me tell ya about Paul’s yachts,

hts,

Let me tell ya about Paul's yachts,

[SIZE=11.5pt]they are simply join up the dots.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=11.5pt]Overall effect[/SIZE] being [SIZE=11.5pt]horrific,[/SIZE]

Couldn’t even do the Pacific.

Without Murray calling the shots!

 

LordBooster

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There will not be enough left for the landfill 
Hehe!

I am more concerned about the sailors well-being. Just imagine a luffing-duel with that guillotine in action. Some sailors like Dean Barker can probably save his neck, but the rest. O dear. The mother's of the sailors will get strokes. Pete Burling's mother: "Pete, don't sail today. That Lord Slicer will give you anything but a close shave!"

 

SloopJonB

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Looks like a never painted plywood deck with some serious delam showing on the underside in one of those pics.

That boat appears to need a complete reconstruction, not just a restoration..

 
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LordBooster

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Looks like a never painted plywood deck with some serious delam showing on the underside in one of those pics.

That boat appears to need a complete reconstruction, not just a restoration..
Is it really that bad? Never painted plywood deck? Not even me could do something like that...

 

LordBooster

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Alican, aluminium whiting 1/4 tonner.... some assembly required

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O dear, this painful to see. When was Alley Kan scrapped? Just found this info:


WHITTING Paul:



”Alley Kan ? 1977”
 



https://www.demi-coques.fr/articlevoile/unetonnelegerechap11
 



“The 1978 Quarter Ton Cup selections
The weak participation in the Dunhill Cup of 1978 undoubtedly demonstrated the decline of the interest carried in the measurement which started already before 1978. It was fast and suddenly, the national Half and One Ton were non-events. This was happening while New Zealand held both titles, with top architects at the time. The only national event that was to be held that year was the selections for the quarter Ton Cup of a fleet of 10 boats anyway. The aim was to participate in the Quarter which would take place in Japan. The selection was won by Alley Kan , a Whiting developed from Magic Bus and Windward sausage , and surprisingly built for this size aluminum boat. Like Magic Bus, it was skippered by Murray Ross. It carried a larger mainsail, its length being less than Magic Bus . The only other contender was her close sistership, Self Whiting, but her performance was hampered by shorter fin, less ballast and less canopy.”


http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Quarter Tonner/Q Whitting.htm?fbclid=IwAR2KIv3lmw2hCt9XyIjY4ySif1noS4PFgIJvaYgJlO3x8Izm9WFTfKfDnSk

 
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