Is this the Figaro III?

Presuming Ed

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Anybody getting V & V tomorrow?

http://www.voilesetvoiliers.com/popup/mais-quel-est-ce-bateau-/

Fairly amazing if it does turn out to be the Figaro III. Doesn't look at all cheap to build.

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Spin Echo

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That would be incredible. Yes, it would be more expensive to build then the 2, but you dont need hydraulics for the keel on a 32 footer, even the early Open 60s had purchase systems for the keel.

 
ctutmark

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I would be very surprised if Beneteau was wanting to build a canter. It has already been announced that Bene is staying on with the Figaro-3.

That said, it looks like a cool boat but not cheap to build or run

 
Chimp

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Why the moustache foils though? They are only on the IMOCAs because the rule only allows 5 appendages. Given freedom they wouldn't be a first choice.

 
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tomasis

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nothing wrong with a scow bow. it looks a bit like Pogo3's.

everything in Figaro 3 looks nice!! it easily beats Figaro 2 in speed.

canting keel, moustache foil.. yeah!

itd be backwards move if those appendages opted out.

 
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The Figaro sailors deliberately kept the II simple so to emphasize sailing ability. I find it hard to believe that a flying scow would even be considered.

 
Roleur

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It's fastest because you are comparing it against boats of the same length (length restrictions). What's the advantage of a scow over a boat 10% longer (or whatever)? It would be neither cheaper nor faster. Figaro doesn't have a length restriction and since they are one-design does it matter if the boats are all 1% faster? For Figaro, the racing would be the same whether the boats are scows or not and the difference would go unnoticed because they would all be the same regardless of which way they go with the design.

Scows only make sense if you don't have the option of going longer (Mini's and IMOCA 60's) and aren't one-design.

 
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Raz'r

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Roleur said:
It's fastest because you are comparing it against boats of the same length (length restrictions). What's the advantage of a scow over a boat 10% longer (or whatever)? It would be neither cheaper nor faster. Figaro doesn't have a length restriction and since they are one-design does it matter if the boats are all 1% faster? For Figaro, the racing would be the same whether the boats are scows or not and the difference would go unnoticed because they would all be the same regardless of which way they go with the design.

Scows only make sense if you don't have the option of going longer (Mini's and IMOCA 60's) and aren't one-design.
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tomasis

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Roleur said:
It's fastest because you are comparing it against boats of the same length (length restrictions). What's the advantage of a scow over a boat 10% longer (or whatever)? It would be neither cheaper nor faster. Figaro doesn't have a length restriction and since they are one-design does it matter if the boats are all 1% faster? For Figaro, the racing would be the same whether the boats are scows or not and the difference would go unnoticed because they would all be the same regardless of which way they go with the design.

Scows only make sense if you don't have the option of going longer (Mini's and IMOCA 60's) and aren't one-design.
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Itd be shame if Figaro 3 is barely faster than F2.
What for improvements do you suggest in order to replace the 10 years design and stay competitive as long as possible.

F1 is quite slow compared to 2. So by lowering weight (canting keel, eventual carbon mast), adding a few inches in length and other small features improving the overall speed, all that makes sense for next generation of Figaro class. Don't you think so?

Again, competing in Figaro class is not for everyone. If one wants choose a design one wants, there is class 40 and mini.

Figaro sailors want the newest stuffs. Budget is not a concern as many of sailors are pros.

 
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jonas a

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Can't find the designer assuming it's not Francois Chevalier :) . It bears some resemblance to the mini 888. Not sure if this is a serious projection, but anyhow if you get the foils working correctly, you would probably not need a scow bow, as the foils will keep the bow flying and also create enough RM to lessen the need of a wide hull

 
Virgulino Ferreira

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Roleur said:
It's fastest because you are comparing it against boats of the same length (length restrictions). What's the advantage of a scow over a boat 10% longer (or whatever)? It would be neither cheaper nor faster. Figaro doesn't have a length restriction and since they are one-design does it matter if the boats are all 1% faster? For Figaro, the racing would be the same whether the boats are scows or not and the difference would go unnoticed because they would all be the same regardless of which way they go with the design.

Scows only make sense if you don't have the option of going longer (Mini's and IMOCA 60's) and aren't one-design.
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Foils and scow because they are positioning the Figaro as the path-to-IMOCA par excellence.

Every wannabe pro, IMOCA aspiring, mini-graduate, young hotshot will be racing the Figaro 3.

And the design briefing calls for "atlantic crossing".

They just killed the Class 40. It will become a stagnanted class for old, fat wealthy men with delusions of someday quitting the job and doing a Global Ocean Race.

 
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