Is this the Figaro III?

[Miffy]

Eh I’m sure there’s plenty of conditions and circumstances that demand reefing to the conditions. 
 

folks who don’t believe in reefing probably aren’t winning anything- every hull has an optimal wetted surface heel angle, with the keel being a constant and water ballast to play with - unless the boat is seriously under canvased, which the figaro 2 is not, trying to ride it out without reefing just means a slower boat. 

 

[solosailor]

 

[Floating Duck]

folks who don’t believe in reefing probably aren’t winning anything- every hull has an optimal wetted surface heel angle, with the keel being a constant and water ballast to play with - unless the boat is seriously under canvased, which the figaro 2 is not, trying to ride it out without reefing just means a slower boat. 

One thing is certain - Nobody will ADMIT to reefing, after all it's not very manly to reef.

:lol:

 

[Snowden]

But Nathalie, who actually did the Figaro series twice, did definitely tell me that the professionals don't reef, and sacrifice their sails for the speed.  They even pay an extra penalty for destroying two sails in a race, but they still do it. 

Why do they get reef points put in their sails, spoiling the shape then?

 

[Foolish]

Why do they get reef points put in their sails,

Probably required for the one-design boat.

 

[jb5]

As this seems to be the closest thread there is around on Solitaire du Figaro there is some interesting news on this years event on the link below.

The race is scheduled still for 8/30-9/20.  The final decision on if the race will go ahead this year is expected by 6/15.  They are reviewing a few alternatives including cancellation but the goal seems to be to move ahead as close to the original schedule as possible.

The list of entries (33 notified) has some great names like  Sharp, Gavignet (nice surprise), Riou, Elies and Le Cléac'h

Hopefully it goes ahead.

Alexis Loison, Armel Le Cléac'h Sam Goodchild, Violet d'Orange, Tanguy Le Turquais, Pierre Leboucher Phil Sharp, Eric Peron, Fabien Delahaye, Tom Dolan, Kevin Bloch, Alan Roberts, Corentin Douguet Sidney Gavignet, Xavier Macaire, Anthony Marchand, Pierre Quiroga, Erwan Le Draoulec Tom Laperche Lois Berrehar, Elodie Bonafous Achille Nebout, Gildas Mahé, Kenny Rumball, Yann Elies, Alberto Bona, Robin Marsh, Cecilia Laguette Vincent Riou Benoît Mariette Marc Mallaret, Nils Palmieri, Morgan Lagravière (subject to the latter).

https://mailchi.mp/tipandshaft/n212-nathalie-qur-la-voile-peut-aider-les-entreprises-se-reconstruire-autour-de-messages-positifs-484313?e=9a497c6fa7

 

[jb5]

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[LeoV]

Scots talk with Phil Sharp has a nice Fig 3 section;
From minute 15 on...

 

[Sailbydate]

^Great interview with, Phil. Interesting discussion about the cost of campaigning a Class 40 Vs an IMOCA60. 1/10th the cost over a year, including design/build and operational costs. Lots of good stuff there. Thanks to, Ed.

 

[LeoV]

I understand the foils now; nice as replacement for waterballast in RM, and in some running conditions the foils lift a bit, so it allows you to change course more then with old style. So allowing more aggressive sailing. Interesting...

 

[SailRacer]

Really good interview! I look forward to more.

Sail Safe!

 

[yl75]

Good interview, so he still believes in the Imoca TOR ?

 

[Bruno]

Both the Bretagne boats are reefed in the above video. I would think that foils are especially sensitive to heel.

 

[LeoV]

and the next race is finishing , Solo Concarneau

https://yb.tl/solo2020

https://sologuycotten.blogspot.com/

ps Yann Eliès having a bad day, almost last, the grey boot; Quéguiner Matériaux, was in the leading pack the evening of the 7th.

 

[Miffy]

Both the Bretagne boats are reefed in the above video. I would think that foils are especially sensitive to heel.

The Figaro never reef nonsense is a lie told to newcomers who wonder why they’re always falling behind and then quit the circuit after a season or two. 

 

[Roleur]

RIP Class 40.

Boy, did that turn out to be not true.

 

[Floating Duck]

^Great interview with, Phil. Interesting discussion about the cost of campaigning a Class 40 Vs an IMOCA60. 1/10th the cost over a year, including design/build and operational costs. Lots of good stuff there. Thanks to, Ed.

Either way, campaigning a 40 is in the hundreds of thousands as an IMOCA is in the millions, mind boggling for a hobby!

I wonder if a comparable 30fter (the "dead" Classe 950?) is 1/10th the cost of a campaigning a 40... and a mini (6.5) 1/10th of THAT... 

 

[nroose]

Either way, campaigning a 40 is in the hundreds of thousands as an IMOCA is in the millions, mind boggling for a hobby!

I wonder if a comparable 30fter (the "dead" Classe 950?) is 1/10th the cost of a campaigning a 40... and a mini (6.5) 1/10th of THAT... 

I would think the 30 would be less, but not 1/10. Probably 1/2 or 1/3. Maybe can be done for less than 100K, but not really sure about that. And a proto mini probably the same as a 30, given the radical design, and a series mini probably a bit less but not a lot. But I really don't know and shouldn't comment ever.

 

[huey 2]

https://www.facebook.com/chloelebarsminitransat2021/

 

[huey 2]

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