J-111 DJINN / Belgian Boys HELLO!

Hi Guys,

 

Fantastic forum and topics.

We are the new "rookies" as we ordered our J 111 in january and will be delivered at the Spi Ouest France, early april.

Our one eleven is called DJINN and is the first one ordered for Belgium. Our sail number is BEL 11111, our club and harbour, RBSC Zeebrugge.

Djinn is produced by JB Composites in Sables d'Olonne, France.

Great to get all of these infos thanks to you guys, we know we have a lot to learn...This is going to be a real challenge, nice races all together, the best is yet to come!

If some of you experienced the delivery of the boat, can you give us some important advice about the things we really have to check twice! Our hull we be ready in 2 weeks, on march 4 it goes for the primary&antifouling paint job. Does we have to check the hull before the paintings? What are specific topics to be double checked before delivery?

We are choosing our first sail set, can each one of you give us their choice? Of course the main suppliers are North, Quantum,..or local suppliers! But do you have any suggestions or special tunings you did or suggest? We are going for the OD races but also for offshore races as Fastnet, MiddleSea, RORC,...and some International IRC championships (ONZK).

Thank to all of you guys for your help and contribution to the 111 community!

JP

 

Blur

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Congratulations!

We'll meet in Trinité sur Mer. Blur will be #69 and delivered the week before Spi Oest.

So quite busy now with sails, electronics, running rigging, housing, logistics and everything else that has to come together at the same time :lol:

 

Albatros

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Zeebrugge sucks bigtime.

anybody sailing out of Zeebrehhe is a wuss, a pussy, a loser.

By the way, fock of and where are those tits nooob ?

geef er 'n lap op mannekes

et pour les flamands, allez vous enculer.

;)

 

Jambalaya

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JP - congratulations on the purchase, they look lovely boats.

Who is doing the anti-fouling ? I had a much better than standard job done on my 105 by having a different contractor (ie my local UK guy) do the anti-fouling. If you are really serious you can have someone check and fair the hull/keel. I have never had that done (new 92/105, second hand 109) but I know owners which have.

I have always changed the sheets and halyards, the ones that came with my boats were pretty average quality. Perhaps on the 111 they have a better package, I don't know.

For sails you should use a designer and manufacturer you know and trust, over a 2 or 3 year programme you'll be doing quite a lot of development and spending quite a lot of money. In the UK North is very dominant now, in France you don't see so many North sails. I don't know what your budget is but for really competitive inshore sailing you will want a specialist main, headsails and kites. For offshore likewise you need specialist sails much more heavily built, taffeta perhaps and 3 reefs for sure. Given the newness of the design it would make sense to me to have one set built for this year and then revise the design construction for 2013 based upon experience. Are you planning Middle Sea for this year - 2012, if not you can have your offshore sails for Fastnet 2013. As the boats are new sail design and rig tune is still evolving.

Finally Spi Ouest is my favourite regatta, you'll have a great time and it will be an excellent competitive shakedown, get as much practice as you can before the event. Hard to know what the conditions will be, we've had years when it's been quite light and others when it's hail and 35 knots. If you're on the sportsboat circle you'll possibly be started with the M34's - super long line as it will be set for the 100 boat J80 fleet, that makes banging left or right side quite a bold move!

 

j109

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Need to check one design rules for keel and hull fairing as our skipper was not allowed to change to flush seacocks or to fair them in.

Spi Ouest is great regatta. Practice partying as much as sailing!

 
JP - congratulations on the purchase, they look lovely boats.

Who is doing the anti-fouling ? I had a much better than standard job done on my 105 by having a different contractor (ie my local UK guy) do the anti-fouling. If you are really serious you can have someone check and fair the hull/keel. I have never had that done (new 92/105, second hand 109) but I know owners which have.

I have always changed the sheets and halyards, the ones that came with my boats were pretty average quality. Perhaps on the 111 they have a better package, I don't know.

For sails you should use a designer and manufacturer you know and trust, over a 2 or 3 year programme you'll be doing quite a lot of development and spending quite a lot of money. In the UK North is very dominant now, in France you don't see so many North sails. I don't know what your budget is but for really competitive inshore sailing you will want a specialist main, headsails and kites. For offshore likewise you need specialist sails much more heavily built, taffeta perhaps and 3 reefs for sure. Given the newness of the design it would make sense to me to have one set built for this year and then revise the design construction for 2013 based upon experience. Are you planning Middle Sea for this year - 2012, if not you can have your offshore sails for Fastnet 2013. As the boats are new sail design and rig tune is still evolving.

Finally Spi Ouest is my favourite regatta, you'll have a great time and it will be an excellent competitive shakedown, get as much practice as you can before the event. Hard to know what the conditions will be, we've had years when it's been quite light and others when it's hail and 35 knots. If you're on the sportsboat circle you'll possibly be started with the M34's - super long line as it will be set for the 100 boat J80 fleet, that makes banging left or right side quite a bold move!
Hi Jambalaya,

thx for your message. We were looking for a J-109!!!! But when we visited J-Composites in France, they made us a proposal we "can't refuse", because they are looking for the OD European Class by the ISAF ;-)

So OK, we decided to order the J-111. What a story.

Normally we had a 18 months calendar, selling our JOD35, looking at different boats and take our time.

We did it in 3 months...But Black Pig is still for sale!

This new J-111 is really looking good, we did a test and really it was a surprise, the helm is so precise, light, easy. The spinnaker is just "HUGE", and going down is a "schuss" experience!

We've chosen the sails, like you told, we know that this first set will be the "learning"one. So we decided to go for a X Voiles (French) set with 1main,3jibs, 2spin. Not the top range, but a good one for a first season and for other multipurpose uses afterwards.

North will "probably" be our choice when we go a top end set. Hopefully for 2013!!

We're not doing the middlesea this year, in brief, this our 2012 schedule;

Spi Ouest France (OD)

Oostende Ramsgate (IRC)

Grand Prix de la Côte d'Opale (IRC)

Round the Island (OD/IRC)

J-Cup (OD)

Cowes Week (OD)

Breskens sailing weekend (IRC)

Antwerp Race (IRC)

It is our first "new" boat and its pretty exciting. Lots of decisions were made during last 40 days. Our crew-members are completely overjoyed...this is going to be a nice story!

Regarding the anti-foul, we have a choice to do, we have an offer from J-Boats official supplier, for a 'classic' hard matrice anti-fouling (Nautix, ....), or we have a partnership deal with Oceoprotec (www.oceoprotec.com),

which is a new version and technology than the old cuppercoat method. Oceoprotec give us a 5 year warranty on the paint job with no big maintenance, for the classic version, we know that once a year, it needs to be refreshed....and repainted. Oceoprotec is made with cupper, so the color is black. Both jobs will be done in cabin with "airbrush" quality.

The J's look nice in fully white and the grey waterline, isn't it? ;-)

Other deal is to sail the spi ouest without anti-fouling, and "flying" back asap to our local supplier and partner? I'm going home the day after the last race with Djinn and some crew.

For the halyards and sheets, we asked for a good racing quality.

Spi Ouest is our first one, and I will be the only owner on board...quiet short notice to get this rocket working as it should in less than 2 days of shakedown and practice.

I hope conditions will not be to heavy for my first trials, better to learn around 12-15 TWS :)

Are you doing the Spi Ouest this year? What's your program?

If you want we can communicate via email? just let me know

many thanks for your contribution

JP

J111

DJINN - BEL11111

 
Congratulations!

We'll meet in Trinité sur Mer. Blur will be #69 and delivered the week before Spi Oest.

So quite busy now with sails, electronics, running rigging, housing, logistics and everything else that has to come together at the same time :lol:

Hi Peter,

Thanx for your message!

We have hull n°68, so BLUR3 and DJINN will be real "sisterships".

Your experiences on the J-109, movies, pics, on your blog where part of our "daily feed", also your test on Piranha, I think, saw the movie maybe 10 times!!!

Like you guys, we are also very very busy with all the options for DJINN.

A very exciting moment, all of these choices, options, updates, .....really hard working days!

What did you took for your electronics?

When are you delivered?

I will go for inspection at the factory around end of March, delivery in La Trinité April 2 or 3.

Some few days to go out for sailing and fine tuning.

Maybe we can organize some practical sessions together?

Regarding meeting you and having nice time on the water,

cheers,

JP

 

Blur

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Your experiences on the J-109, movies, pics, on your blog where part of our "daily feed", also your test on Piranha, I think, saw the movie maybe 10 times!!!

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What did you took for your electronics?

When are you delivered?
For instruments we went with Nexus again. This time with their NXR-series that are also standard on the M34. In combination with Expedition for nav/tactics/routing we find that they give us correct data and are great value for money. Also their service is superb.

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Drop me an email on [email protected] and we'll coordinate. We're hoping to splash the week before Spi Ouest and do tuning with North on tues/wed.

Another "unofficial" video while waiting:

https://player.vimeo.com/video/36410981
 

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bowboy

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Your experiences on the J-109, movies, pics, on your blog where part of our "daily feed", also your test on Piranha, I think, saw the movie maybe 10 times!!!

...

What did you took for your electronics?

When are you delivered?
For instruments we went with Nexus again. This time with their NXR-series that are also standard on the M34. In combination with Expedition for nav/tactics/routing we find that they give us correct data and are great value for money. Also their service is superb.

/monthly_02_2012/post-5025-089967800%201329373751_thumb.jpg

Drop me an email on [email protected] and we'll coordinate. We're hoping to splash the week before Spi Ouest and do tuning with North on tues/wed.

Another "unofficial" video while waiting:

https://player.vimeo.com/video/36410981
nice vid blur. makes me want to add "2" to our 109 :)

i'm dying to crawl forward and close that hatch around minute 2 though.....

 

Jem

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see you on the circuit

if you're doing round the island - and if you are based in hamble the night before and you fancy, book the crew into the dolce vita in hamble the evening before - we'll be there there at 1930.

if not - see you for beers at the J-cup.

Jem

J-111 Jeez-Louise

 
Your experiences on the J-109, movies, pics, on your blog where part of our "daily feed", also your test on Piranha, I think, saw the movie maybe 10 times!!!

...

What did you took for your electronics?

When are you delivered?
For instruments we went with Nexus again. This time with their NXR-series that are also standard on the M34. In combination with Expedition for nav/tactics/routing we find that they give us correct data and are great value for money. Also their service is superb.

/monthly_02_2012/post-5025-089967800%201329373751_thumb.jpg

Drop me an email on [email protected] and we'll coordinate. We're hoping to splash the week before Spi Ouest and do tuning with North on tues/wed.

Another "unofficial" video while waiting:

https://player.vimeo.com/video/36410981
Great one Peter! A good mashup of our new toy!

I will take contact by mail,

br,

JP

 
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