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What's a "Jib Reach"?The return leg was a very tight jib reach up until about two miles from the finish.
What's a "Jib Reach"?The return leg was a very tight jib reach up until about two miles from the finish.
I was going to ask what a "felch" is? or was it fetch...? Dems olden times mariner terms, bye.What's a "Jib Reach"?The return leg was a very tight jib reach up until about two miles from the finish.
A very tight jib reach asymptotically approaches a fetch but never gets there.I was going to ask what a "felch" is? or was it fetch...? Dems olden times mariner terms, bye.What's a "Jib Reach"?The return leg was a very tight jib reach up until about two miles from the finish.
I reckon a jib reach is like reaching with a jib, rather than reaching with a spi. Have you heard of a spinnaker reach?
We do a lot of "spinnaker reaching" on my boat. I figure when you gybe through 260 degrees it must be a reach when you come out the other side, right?I was going to ask what a "felch" is? or was it fetch...? Dems olden times mariner terms, bye.What's a "Jib Reach"?The return leg was a very tight jib reach up until about two miles from the finish.
I reckon a jib reach is like reaching with a jib, rather than reaching with a spi. Have you heard of a spinnaker reach?
We could call it a "Reaching Fetch" or a "Fetching Reach" or better yet a "felching retch"We do a lot of "spinnaker reaching" on my boat. I figure when you gybe through 260 degrees it must be a reach when you come out the other side, right?I was going to ask what a "felch" is? or was it fetch...? Dems olden times mariner terms, bye.What's a "Jib Reach"?The return leg was a very tight jib reach up until about two miles from the finish.
I reckon a jib reach is like reaching with a jib, rather than reaching with a spi. Have you heard of a spinnaker reach?
We kept them behind on the first leg (with a 5 min head start on a 105) but after rounding the Crib... boy that boat had legs.Hey PitGirl - How did the J/111 do in the Beer can Last night? 8-10knts the course was a beat, a close reach, and a run....
What 12345 said. We were a little slow upwind, but I suspect due to the face our Jib clew was cut WAY too low and we really couldn't trim properly (getting it fixed so it's ready for the Sheldon Clark). The reach was tough with the weird wave action and current, but still maintained good speed. The boat launches downwind...we beat the Farr 40, Beneteau 40.7 and one other boat (this was for CYC, not sure where we would have placed against the Columbia boats).We kept them behind on the first leg (with a 5 min head start on a 105) but after rounding the Crib... boy that boat had legs.Hey PitGirl - How did the J/111 do in the Beer can Last night? 8-10knts the course was a beat, a close reach, and a run....
Hull #4 should be here in the Bay Area early next month, sailing later in the month hopefully.Love the looks of the boat, can't wait till one shows up at Sail California here in Alameda. I'm sure all you armchair experts are aware that these first results are with first generation sails. Kinda stupid to try and compare against boats that are into thier 5th or 6th generation of refinement. (Farr 40, Bene) Just sayin.
The Hamble rumour-mill told me that boat #3 (hopefully more than a hull) is UK-bound as early as October or if not, certainly the boat show (whenever that is). Money is still a bit stupid: £240-280k! final figures to be nailed down. Given a new 109 (if they exist) is £180k then this will be a serious premium over that.Hull #4 should be here in the Bay Area early next month, sailing later in the month hopefully.Love the looks of the boat, can't wait till one shows up at Sail California here in Alameda. I'm sure all you armchair experts are aware that these first results are with first generation sails. Kinda stupid to try and compare against boats that are into thier 5th or 6th generation of refinement. (Farr 40, Bene) Just sayin.
These numbers sound high with pound sterling at 1.54. Not sure how J Boats representation works in Europe, you may have uplifted international pricing. Depending on how trick you get with sail inventory and electronics, the cost is likely to peg in the high 200s. I will get over that with #4 but those are my own choices on fit out. I much agree for OD, pricing needs to stay in check. That said, the 111 probably deserves a premium over the 109.Money is still a bit stupid: £240-280k! final figures to be nailed down. Given a new 109 (if they exist) is £180k then this will be a serious premium over that.
I asked a local J dealer - he said expect $350k to take a J111 home compared to $300k for the J109.These numbers sound high with pound sterling at 1.54. Not sure how J Boats representation works in Europe, you may have uplifted international pricing. Depending on how trick you get with sail inventory and electronics, the cost is likely to peg in the high 200s. I will get over that with #4 but those are my own choices on fit out. I much agree for OD, pricing needs to stay in check. That said, the 111 probably deserves a premium over the 109.Money is still a bit stupid: £240-280k! final figures to be nailed down. Given a new 109 (if they exist) is £180k then this will be a serious premium over that.
With sales tax approaching 10% in Alameda, you get their quicker.I asked a local J dealer - he said expect $350k to take a J111 home compared to $300k for the J109.
If those prices are right - ouch ! UK VAT is going from 17.5% to 20% so that has to be factored in. I would suspect J-UK will have a boat on the water as soon as they can, whether that's been sold to a customer or not.The Hamble rumour-mill told me that boat #3 (hopefully more than a hull) is UK-bound as early as October or if not, certainly the boat show (whenever that is). Money is still a bit stupid: £240-280k! final figures to be nailed down. Given a new 109 (if they exist) is £180k then this will be a serious premium over that.Hull #4 should be here in the Bay Area early next month, sailing later in the month hopefully.Love the looks of the boat, can't wait till one shows up at Sail California here in Alameda. I'm sure all you armchair experts are aware that these first results are with first generation sails. Kinda stupid to try and compare against boats that are into thier 5th or 6th generation of refinement. (Farr 40, Bene) Just sayin.
One design potential? i.e. will we get 5/6/7 quarter-of-a-million boats by year 3? Who knows. They built ~70 J122s and they're scattered to the winds. The more expensive but more offshore-oriented 133 outnumbers 122s in the UK by a wide margin.