J/45

Alaris

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Snowden

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<div class="bbWrapper">I wonder how many will get specced with the self-tacking jib<br /> <br /> The double opening port lights look very '90s Beneteau'<br /> <br /> What do we think it looks like underwater - club foot keel and single rudder?<br /> <br /></div>
 

JL92S

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<div class="bbWrapper">I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a lift keel and twin rudder option available down the line. Looks like a nice enough boat and a natural successor to the J133 but already looks outdated next to the 10 year old XP44<br /> <br /></div>
 

Alaris

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="JL92S" data-source="post: 7327900" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=7327900" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-7327900">JL92S said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a lift keel and twin rudder option available down the line. Looks like a nice enough boat and a natural successor to the J133 but already looks outdated next to the 10 year old XP44 </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> I think it is much more attractive than the relatively clunky looking XP44. This doesn’t look as ungainly. <br /> <br /></div>
 
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Matagi

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<div class="bbWrapper"><div class="bbImageWrapper lazyload js-lbImage" title="J45-Profile.jpg" data-src="https://www.jboats.com/images/slides/j45/700x350/J45-Profile.jpg" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" data-src="https://www.jboats.com/images/slides/j45/700x350/J45-Profile.jpg" data-url="https://www.jboats.com/images/slides/j45/700x350/J45-Profile.jpg" class="bbImage lazyload" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="J45-Profile.jpg" title="" width="" height="" /> <noscript><img src="https://www.jboats.com/images/slides/j45/700x350/J45-Profile.jpg" data-url="https://www.jboats.com/images/slides/j45/700x350/J45-Profile.jpg" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="J45-Profile.jpg" title="" width="" height="" /></noscript> </div> <br /> <br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper lazyload js-lbImage" title="J45InteriorPlans.jpg" data-src="https://www.jboats.com/images/slides/j45/700x350/J45InteriorPlans.jpg" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" data-src="https://www.jboats.com/images/slides/j45/700x350/J45InteriorPlans.jpg" data-url="https://www.jboats.com/images/slides/j45/700x350/J45InteriorPlans.jpg" class="bbImage lazyload" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="J45InteriorPlans.jpg" title="" width="" height="" /> <noscript><img src="https://www.jboats.com/images/slides/j45/700x350/J45InteriorPlans.jpg" data-url="https://www.jboats.com/images/slides/j45/700x350/J45InteriorPlans.jpg" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="J45InteriorPlans.jpg" title="" width="" height="" /></noscript> </div> <br /> <br /> Looks more agressive on the drawing board than in the rendering. Inverse bow, even. Is this the first J/ with a fixed bowsprit? <br /> <br /></div>
 
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Matagi

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<div class="bbWrapper">Here is the also new Arcona 435 just for comparison. Very similar interior plan, similar dimensions, the Arcona is lighter by quite a bit, but also narrower.<br /> <br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper lazyload js-lbImage" title="nhXEwNUXDXsDEh74O4EzlP0PLUin4ZRcLaJ1broU.jpeg" data-src="https://sailboatdata.com/storage/nhXEwNUXDXsDEh74O4EzlP0PLUin4ZRcLaJ1broU.jpeg" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" data-src="https://sailboatdata.com/storage/nhXEwNUXDXsDEh74O4EzlP0PLUin4ZRcLaJ1broU.jpeg" data-url="https://sailboatdata.com/storage/nhXEwNUXDXsDEh74O4EzlP0PLUin4ZRcLaJ1broU.jpeg" class="bbImage lazyload" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="nhXEwNUXDXsDEh74O4EzlP0PLUin4ZRcLaJ1broU.jpeg" title="" width="" height="" /> <noscript><img src="https://sailboatdata.com/storage/nhXEwNUXDXsDEh74O4EzlP0PLUin4ZRcLaJ1broU.jpeg" data-url="https://sailboatdata.com/storage/nhXEwNUXDXsDEh74O4EzlP0PLUin4ZRcLaJ1broU.jpeg" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="nhXEwNUXDXsDEh74O4EzlP0PLUin4ZRcLaJ1broU.jpeg" title="" width="" height="" /></noscript> </div> <br /> <br /></div>
 
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Snowden

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<div class="bbWrapper">Lots of good boats from the 'premium' manufacturers in this size range (Arcona / X / Grand Soleil / Italia), not immediately seeing what the J brings to the party in Europe at least.<br /> <br /></div>
 

Swimsailor

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<div class="bbWrapper">This seems way too cruisy to be the upsized 121 Stu promised.  More interest in a cruiser evidently.<br /> <br /></div>
 

'Bacco

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="sailman" data-source="post: 7328062" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=7328062" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-7328062">sailman said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Cabin and cockpit look more like a C&amp;amp;C, which isn’t a compliment. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> I have always thought C&amp;amp;C's were very attractive boats.<br /> <br /> If anything, the new 45 looks like Beneteau and Hanse had an awkward love child. To me, hull windows are a terrible look.<br /> <br /></div>
 

'Bacco

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Matagi" data-source="post: 7327961" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=7327961" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-7327961">Matagi said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent ">  Is this the first J/ with a fixed bowsprit?  </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> The 99 has a fixed sprit. I also think its an option on the new J/9<br /> <br /></div>
 

JL92S

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<div class="bbWrapper">Hopefully they can improve build quality for this boat. Some friends bought a J122E a few years back and had issues since the start, J composites don’t seem to have great expertise in fitting a teak deck to an expensive yacht. They had some serious warranty issues as well that meant the boat spent months in a shed. Having said all that the J45 is pretty much guaranteed to sail really nicely and very rewarding but a performance cruiser racer needs to do more than just sail well<br /> <br /></div>
 

Alaris

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<div class="bbWrapper">I truly do not understand why someone would buy a performance cruiser in 2020 and then spec teak decks. It’s not a Swan. <br /> <br /></div>
 

Alaris

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="'Bacco" data-source="post: 7328248" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=7328248" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-7328248">'Bacco said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I have always thought C&amp;amp;C's were very attractive boats.<br /> <br /> If anything, the new 45 looks like Beneteau and Hanse had an awkward love child. To me, hull windows are a terrible look. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> The J/160 was available with hull windows that I think are well executed.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://forums.sailinganarchy.com/attachments/7e1f5ee5-1480-42e5-9620-8325dce26d15-jpeg.415283/" target="_blank" class="js-lbImage" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html=""> <img src="data:image/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns%3D'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg' width='748' height='500' viewBox%3D'0 0 748 500'%2F%3E" data-src="https://forums.sailinganarchy.com/data/attachments/337/337937-a5c94a3d293d8534348f9489aa977a07.jpg" class="bbImage lazyload" style="" alt="7E1F5EE5-1480-42E5-9620-8325DCE26D15.jpeg" title="7E1F5EE5-1480-42E5-9620-8325DCE26D15.jpeg" width="748" height="500" /> <noscript><img src="https://forums.sailinganarchy.com/data/attachments/337/337937-a5c94a3d293d8534348f9489aa977a07.jpg" class="bbImage " style="" alt="7E1F5EE5-1480-42E5-9620-8325DCE26D15.jpeg" title="7E1F5EE5-1480-42E5-9620-8325DCE26D15.jpeg" width="748" height="500" /></noscript> </a> <br /> <br /></div>
 

Snowden

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Alaris" data-source="post: 7328273" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=7328273" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-7328273">Alaris said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I truly do not understand why someone would buy a performance cruiser in 2020 and then spec teak decks. It’s not a Swan.  </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> The teak is just thin cosmetic strips in a glass rebate rather than ply subdeck with the full job on top. The thing will weigh a lot anyway and I suppose it makes the non-racing spouse happier.<br /> <br /></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Alaris" data-source="post: 7328279" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=7328279" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-7328279">Alaris said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The J/160 was available with hull windows that I think are well executed.<br /> <br /> <a href="https://forums.sailinganarchy.com/attachments/415283/" target="_blank">View attachment 415283</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> Great view of Sippican Harbor Marion.<br /> <br /></div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Snowden" data-source="post: 7327991" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=7327991" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-7327991">Snowden said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Lots of good boats from the 'premium' manufacturers in this size range (Arcona / X / Grand Soleil / Italia), not immediately seeing what the J brings to the party in Europe at least. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> Don't forget the leaky deck fittings in balsa core? There's that.<br /> <br /></div>
 

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