apophenia
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Seems like a solid enough answer to anyone asking when production will start on the J/125 Mk2.
J/45
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Well, it good to see the normal J/Boat haters are still doing well :lol:
How many of us here and commenting are honestly in the market (or could be, but aren't) for a 45' performance cruiser that will likely be in the $500k range? J has to design boats that sell to people that can buy, and are looking to buy, a 45' performance cruiser.
While I'm not a fan of the hull windows (or hull windows in general), I'm not the target market. Some guy with 1/2 mil or more to spend is...I'm pretty sure the hull windows, and there location were driven by the interior designer...and that J isn't necessarily all that wowed by them either, hence showing the hull in dark blue to minimize the impact...
While I'm not a fan of Euro interiors or light wood interiors, I'm not the target market. Some guy with 1/2 mil or more to spend is...If you want good airflow in the head and galley, you need some opening ports...this seems a pretty reasonable solution to that issue.
Overall, on the exterior, I think they did a great job of blending current modern trends, with the J/boat look. I like it....which is not something I can say of the new Beneteaus or Hanses or Hinckleys for that matter.
How many of us here and commenting are honestly in the market (or could be, but aren't) for a 45' performance cruiser that will likely be in the $500k range? J has to design boats that sell to people that can buy, and are looking to buy, a 45' performance cruiser.
While I'm not a fan of the hull windows (or hull windows in general), I'm not the target market. Some guy with 1/2 mil or more to spend is...I'm pretty sure the hull windows, and there location were driven by the interior designer...and that J isn't necessarily all that wowed by them either, hence showing the hull in dark blue to minimize the impact...
While I'm not a fan of Euro interiors or light wood interiors, I'm not the target market. Some guy with 1/2 mil or more to spend is...If you want good airflow in the head and galley, you need some opening ports...this seems a pretty reasonable solution to that issue.
Overall, on the exterior, I think they did a great job of blending current modern trends, with the J/boat look. I like it....which is not something I can say of the new Beneteaus or Hanses or Hinckleys for that matter.
Swimsailor
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ready to rock post-VAT with racing sails, deep keel, upgraded deck hardware, carbon rig and so on? not much change from $1M I wouldn't have thought. $2M in earnings this side of the pond.
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Swimsailor
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Being that the 121 is $600k out the door I would expect a 45 foot blue water cruiser to be well north of that.
Pretty boat.
I agree with others. Looks similar to Beneteau, Hanse, etc, etc. If I didn't know J would not have been one of my first 5 guesses.
J is pretty savvy at marketing. Maybe they were losing share to these other builders and decided to take a step in that direction.
I agree with others. Looks similar to Beneteau, Hanse, etc, etc. If I didn't know J would not have been one of my first 5 guesses.
J is pretty savvy at marketing. Maybe they were losing share to these other builders and decided to take a step in that direction.
jsaronson
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Agree with Yoyo.
Bigger boat, bigger bucks. Price a comparable size Bene and double it.
The market around 45 is crowded, with Salona, Italia, Bene Jenneau, XP ...
I wish them luck.
Bigger boat, bigger bucks. Price a comparable size Bene and double it.
The market around 45 is crowded, with Salona, Italia, Bene Jenneau, XP ...
I wish them luck.
jackolantern
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All I can say is you've been racing against the wrong ones, mate
gullwinkle
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I heard that brokers had to buy the boat first from J before it could be sold. So any orders come from the brokers and that increases the false demand.
I would reserve comment on that until seeing one in the flesh. You know what these manufacturer renders are like - ultimately they are solving the same equation of headroom vs freeboard vs coachroof vs canoe body.
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gullwinkle
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Okay I haven’t found one since 1990 unattractive :lol: the J/24 and J/30 are outliers
Swimsailor
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That may be true for the brokers but J typically doesn’t launch a new boat unless there were owners already lined up.
smilingpolitely
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This is accurate ^
This is not accurate ^
Yes this is a busy part of the market right now and it is consumer-driven. It is incredibly expensive for small and mid-size builders to tool up for a boat like this, and they would not be doing it if the buyers were not there. A buyer with the means to purchase a no-compromise cruiser/racer has a lot of options, which is a good thing. Plenty of room for J/Boats to bring their exceptional track record to this part of the market. As a J Dealer (and the guy that sold J/45 #2) I can tell you that our customers have been asking for this boat for a long time.
J/Boats did their homework on this one, and they have the dealer network to support the owners that buy it. They are upping their game with the design, the construction (no balsa coring, anywhere) and the finish. I can't wait to see the first boats hit the water this summer.
Detailed dimensions, images etc posted on this page which will be updated frequently:
https://www.mcmichaelyachtbrokers.com/mcmichaelyachtbrokers.com/j-boats/new-j45
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