jackolantern
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https://sailingmagazine.net/article-2355-j_45.htmlNice design review by Bob Perry in the most recent issue of Sailing Magazine…
I would love to redesign the interior for offshore racing with a 10 person crew.
That's cute. At 10.4 tons per specs, I highly doubt it.very puffy puff piece. They actually made the claim that they’re the fastest in their size range.
I've seen the pricing sheet, and once you put sails and instruments on her I think that 875k number is just about right, perhaps even a little light. You won't get much change from a million on this one.I know that prices are just going through the roof, but still...
Sorry,
I'm confident that ballpark figure of 875,000 USD mentioned above is well overpriced for a J, even for that size.
I'd rather say that number quoted above is a wrong estimate.
Fore reference, a JPK 45 is 9.6 tons, has a larger asym, looks like it can drive you to the North Pole singlehandedly and allegedly costs roughly 400,000 EUR.
That is also roughly the price I'd expect (and even call that above acceptable) for the J/45.
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That JPK 45 looks awesome!I know that prices are just going through the roof, but still...
Sorry,
I'm confident that ballpark figure of 875,000 USD mentioned above is well overpriced for a J, even for that size.
I'd rather say that number quoted above is a wrong estimate.
Fore reference, a JPK 45 is 9.6 tons, has a larger asym, looks like it can drive you to the North Pole singlehandedly and allegedly costs roughly 400,000 EUR.
That is also roughly the price I'd expect (and even call that above acceptable) for the J/45.
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swan 45 would be close in shape. however, on the swan 45, the higher aspect keel combined with 280 draft would always win over a similar hull shape with a more moderate keel and less draftThat's cute. At 10.4 tons per specs, I highly doubt it.
They won't have a problem to eat an X4-6 or a Dehler 46, but I think a Grand Soleil 44 or the Italia 13.98 will punch the J into the corner.
I would even expect a 20 year old Swan 45 design to be very competitive against this design.
That’s not really the point. It’s marketed as a cruising boat. There are better choices for offshore racing, I’m sure even J would concede.I would love to redesign the interior for offshore racing with a 10 person crew.
No forward head and an empty forepeak with a platform under the bow hatch.
2 Saloon settee berths with 2 pipe berths above and one owners rack aft
Aft walk through head with walk through to the cockpit locker like the J133.
J Boats built the J/145 for that racing market and they sold, what? A few?That’s not really the point. It’s marketed as a cruising boat. There are better choices for offshore racing, I’m sure even J would concede.
They built 18. Not bad for a 48' production racer IMHO.J Boats built the J/145 for that racing market and they sold, what? A few?
As a comparison they built 67 J/44's, 35 J/46's, and 35 J/160's.They built 18. Not bad for a 48' production racer IMHO.
But it was designed as a racer, the others as cruisers. What's your point?As a comparison they built 67 J/44's, 35 J/46's, and 35 J/160's.
Exactly. The point is cruisers sell better than racers. Which is why the J/45 does not have the racing features requested above (and pasted below).But it was designed as a racer, the others as cruisers. What's your point?