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Bump-n-Grind

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After discussions with the yard... we're going to move the fuel fill hole forward about a foot, run the line down adjacent and connected to the forward side of the icebox cabinet, following the interior of the hull down into the setee to the tank.  That cabinet is glassed in and solid like a rock... they thought it would be expensive to basically disassemble and re-assemble the cabinet, cut out parts then re-glass them back in, and it likely wouldn't go back together as tight as it is now.  The new position will be out of the way but will be more easily replaced if need be and save quite a bit of money.  I'd have reservations if this were a gas fill line but since it is diesel - and having seen how hard it is to cut or puncture one of these lines - I think this approach will work fine.  Will post up pics once it's done.  
I wonder why they didn't put em in like that to begin with. guess it was to keep the fuel line away from the settee? and maybe protected behind that bulkhead. at least it isn't as bed as the routing on the hose for the bilge pump in the J30 ;)

 

lartaunt

Super Anarchist
After discussions with the yard... we're going to move the fuel fill hole forward about a foot, run the line down adjacent and connected to the forward side of the icebox cabinet, following the interior of the hull down into the setee to the tank.  That cabinet is glassed in and solid like a rock... they thought it would be expensive to basically disassemble and re-assemble the cabinet, cut out parts then re-glass them back in, and it likely wouldn't go back together as tight as it is now.  The new position will be out of the way but will be more easily replaced if need be and save quite a bit of money.  I'd have reservations if this were a gas fill line but since it is diesel - and having seen how hard it is to cut or puncture one of these lines - I think this approach will work fine.  Will post up pics once it's done.  
Torresen's in Muskegon replaced mine about 18 years ago in place.  I don't recall that they had any major problems removing and replacing (At least I don't remember any outragous bills or fiberglass work associated with it) .  Mine is hull 105, 1985 build,   I think they pulled the tank and yanked it down with a feeder line attached and pulled the new hose down with the feeder line. 

 
Torresen's in Muskegon replaced mine about 18 years ago in place.  I don't recall that they had any major problems removing and replacing (At least I don't remember any outragous bills or fiberglass work associated with it) .  Mine is hull 105, 1985 build,   I think they pulled the tank and yanked it down with a feeder line attached and pulled the new hose down with the feeder line. 
You think they'd do mine?  LOL.  The fuel line is connected internally somewhere in the cabinet, there is no give at all when pulled down or up real hard, so the cabinet is going to need to come apart to get it out - this per a guy who has worked on 8 or 10 J/35s in this area over the years and has done it before.  We have a little higher hull number, and there are some variations in construction, we've noticed over time - for instance the 2" shoe we have on our keel to bring it up to class standard dimensions.  I don't mind moving the location of the fill tube anyhow so that I can inspect the line from time to time.  The old fuel line was dry rotted enough that fingertip pressure on a knife pushed it through the rubber. That wasn't comforting.  It will also free me up to shoot some insulating foam into the ice box area of the cabinet, to let me keep beer cooler on warm days, so it's a win/win. 

 
The guys at Muller's (same crew, now under new ownership) cut out the old line back to the cabinet base, moved the fuel fill deck fitting about a foot forward, and fastened down the forward edge of the icebox/cabinet to the tank location down under the settee, adjacent to the breather hose.  They were doing some glass work on the exterior of the hull in that area anyhow, and when they finished up it was impossible to tell they had moved it.  I'm happy with the fix and honestly happy to have the new line out where I can replace it myself if needed. And the icebox/cabinet is still rock solid, so all's well that ends well.   

It goes well with the new tank, and combined with slightly larger fuel lines - up to 3/8 ID versus the stock 1/4 ID lines - the engine is running a lot better.  The 3GM30 couldn't turn past 3000 before and now it spins to 3400 under load - haven't done more than short bursts or pushed it past that and the 2800 RPM cruising speed is smoother and quieter than it was a few years ago when I bought her.  New engine mounts helped but the improved fuel supply was like a tuneup.  I went with KSH Fuel Tanks / KSH Marine.  They were knowledgeable about Coast Guard tank requirements on baffles and all the rest, and built it to spec using the class line drawing you guys forwarded me for about $450.  Money well spent.   

Now about this chainplate bulkhead that I have which is getting a little soft due to many years of slight water intrusion... I guess that's this winter's big project along with templating the keel and some inside repairs of a few wet spots.  It sounds like a lot but I feel like an utter slacker compared to Roger... he shames the rest of us really.  

 

lartaunt

Super Anarchist
Ed did a  review of a beautifully maintained J35 that is really quite good!   Thanks Scott!    Boat has some minor mods for comfort but is in absolutely pristine condition. Set up more for cruising but I have seen boats set up like this be very competitive on the race course too.  Congrats to the owner on a beautiful J35,  Link to video HERE

 

sheet_in

New member
Any puget sound J/35 sailers on here? I'm in seattle and thinking about buying one but wanted to talk to some local owners/sailers.

I've seen Those Guys and Solution at races in the area but I know there are others out there. 

This is what I'm looking at: https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bod/d/gig-harbor-boats-j-racing-sailboat/7210756641.html

Used to be Renegade and sailed on the great lakes till 2006 or so, then sailed the south sound for a few years but has been in a shed for the past decade.

 

T sailor

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Wow.  That looks like a great buy if you are considering a 35.  Better jump on it quick.  You could get a boat for free and still not be up to where that boat is.  Get it surveyed and go for it!

 

lartaunt

Super Anarchist
Any puget sound J/35 sailers on here? I'm in seattle and thinking about buying one but wanted to talk to some local owners/sailers.

I've seen Those Guys and Solution at races in the area but I know there are others out there. 

This is what I'm looking at: https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bod/d/gig-harbor-boats-j-racing-sailboat/7210756641.html

Used to be Renegade and sailed on the great lakes till 2006 or so, then sailed the south sound for a few years but has been in a shed for the past decade.
Didn't it used to be Red?  Sailed out of Milwuakee?  Boat looks amazing!  Great price for the condition!

 
good looking boat. If you want a j35 in the pnw, that one is the the one I would be looking to get. Would not take much work at all to get it water ready, by the looks of things. 

 

Bump-n-Grind

Get off my lawn.
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Any puget sound J/35 sailers on here? I'm in seattle and thinking about buying one but wanted to talk to some local owners/sailers.

I've seen Those Guys and Solution at races in the area but I know there are others out there. 

This is what I'm looking at: https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bod/d/gig-harbor-boats-j-racing-sailboat/7210756641.html

Used to be Renegade and sailed on the great lakes till 2006 or so, then sailed the south sound for a few years but has been in a shed for the past decade.
"Add to that brand new white Naugahide upholstery ..." but how many baby Naugas were killed to do that upholstery? I cry .... 

good lookin boat though. 

 
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Naugahyde or similar would be tough around here... too damn hot during most of the sailing season.  You'd be sticking to the settee like a gold digging third wife to a 90 year old billionaire.  
There is only one or two days a year you would be sticking to it here in the great pwn. But the rain water might puddle on it from time to time. 

 

dispursed

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just invested in a J35 in the PNW.  this seems like as good a place as any to say hello to the other owners around the globe!

hull 112, previously sweetspot, previously uncle bill, previously patriot

 

Tack nazi

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Can anyone tell or show me where the bleed screw is for yanmar 3gm on my '84 J35? I paid a mechanic and it ran for 2 minutes, quit and won't start again. It has electric fuel pump that is pumping fuel. Mechanic does not seem interested to return. I was told last year and this year that it was a "severe" air lock. Thanks in advance.

 
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