Jimmys backpack? Laptop and heads up display

sailflat

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We have one we built and developed for our tri...

The more high quality the HUD the easier it is to get adjusted to.

Selectable screens using a push button on a wire that runs down the sleeve of my fowlies.

Can display selectable numerical data and simple graphics as well; Usable day or night.

Simply brilliant for buoy races and even better for distance races.

Cost about $28,000 all up including our development costs...

Working on a custom display on a watch now too.

 

in_TO

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Presumably the audio side is comms with the other crew.
It also included computer-generated speech that would issue warnings if the load sensors detected that critical thresholds were close to being exceeded.
Really? I'm wonder if that enhancement was working when they broke their mast in San Diego?
Yes. It was mentioned on the BMW-O live stream. They named the voice "Rebecca"

 

Somebody Else

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this kind of thing as way beyond my understanding
That didn't stop you from commenting, though... <_<

having never seen it.
But you can read, can't you...

This stuff is old-tech. Not for yacht racing yet, but airplanes, many automobiles and everything military.

 
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We have one we built and developed for our tri...
The more high quality the HUD the easier it is to get adjusted to.

Selectable screens using a push button on a wire that runs down the sleeve of my fowlies.

Can display selectable numerical data and simple graphics as well; Usable day or night.

Simply brilliant for buoy races and even better for distance races.

Cost about $28,000 all up including our development costs...

Working on a custom display on a watch now too.
that's awesome... Wonder how much farther away GA airplanes are from having "affordable" HUD's on the panel, and hell, on glasses like this...

Presumably the audio side is comms with the other crew.
It also included computer-generated speech that would issue warnings if the load sensors detected that critical thresholds were close to being exceeded.
Really? I'm wonder if that enhancement was working when they broke their mast in San Diego?
Yes. It was mentioned on the BMW-O live stream. They named the voice "Rebecca"
i thought that sorta stuff was called "bitchin betty"...

 

johnnysaint

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this kind of thing as way beyond my understanding
That didn't stop you from commenting, though... <_<

having never seen it.
But you can read, can't you...

This stuff is old-tech. Not for yacht racing yet, but airplanes, many automobiles and everything military.
I don't have anything to do with airplanes (except sit in the back seat) or the military. I've never ever seen it in a car.

It's a free world (at least where I live) I can comment on anything I please, even if it's to say I know Jack shit about something.

 

pitman260

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You can buy a scuba mask in any dive shop that has a display of the readout of your dive computer on the lower right corner of the field of vision. It is technology that is becoming commonplace.

 

Vang Tang

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HUD's are not new and this application is not all that complicated either and not worth $28K (sorry bro) You can get a one eye HUD for less than $1K that can be plugged into a rugged net book and put it in your backpack. Interface with a wifi unit downbelow that is tapped into your NobleTech / Nav / B&G's / Web. Pull up anything anytime.

A remote watch display would be awesome for the rest of the crew, who could get data from the lead tech-tician. Perhaps a wifi comm system could be intergrated.

Imagine the possibilities....

Tech-tician: "Great take-down foredeck!"

Foredeck: "Thanks man"

Techtician: "No problem, I've uploaded a Jenna Jameson video to your watch for the long upwind beat"

Foredeck: "Sweet thanks! I'm glad I wore my watch on my left hand"

 

johnnysaint

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I've got a great idea. How about we get some great big instruments made - call them Jumbos, or something- and put them on the mast or deck where everyone can see them.

 
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thefuture

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HUD's are not new and this application is not all that complicated either and not worth $28K (sorry bro) You can get a one eye HUD for less than $1K that can be plugged into a rugged net book and put it in your backpack. Interface with a wifi unit downbelow that is tapped into your NobleTech / Nav / B&G's / Web. Pull up anything anytime.
A remote watch display would be awesome for the rest of the crew, who could get data from the lead tech-tician. Perhaps a wifi comm system could be intergrated.

Imagine the possibilities....

Tech-tician: "Great take-down foredeck!"

Foredeck: "Thanks man"

Techtician: "No problem, I've uploaded a Jenna Jameson video to your watch for the long upwind beat"

Foredeck: "Sweet thanks! I'm glad I wore my watch on my left hand"

You owe me a new keyboard! Shit's funny man.

 

gbyrnes

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Now were' talking. But if you can make the glasses lightweight and wifi enabled, you won't need to keep a hand free for a watch. Plus, you wouldn't have to worry about wearing the brains in that backpack.

 

kent_island_sailor

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I had a prototype B&G HUD for a bit in my shop in the mid 90s.

One issue is if you are trying to project courses and waypoints "on the water", you need to match pitch and roll of the boat EXACTLY or you get seasick looking at the thing.

 

gkny

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Actually, I wonder how helpful a HUD is on a sailboat. One of the issues that people don't understand is that much of the limitation in considering multiple sources of information is a central attentional limitation. For example, many people think that "hands free" cell phones eliminate the risks of talking on the cell phone and driving. In fact, they do help with some of the mechanics of driving but hands free does not eliminate the distraction provided by a cell phone conversation. To the extent that a driver is paying attention to the conversation they are less aware of the driving conditions around them. Research indicates that the level of impairment is equivalent to driving at the legal limit for blood alcohol.

There may be advantages to a HUD for sailing in that shifting one's gaze takes time and may change one's physical orientation but to the extent that a driver is paying attention to display there have to be reductions in their driving performance.

 

creedence623

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Actually, I wonder how helpful a HUD is on a sailboat. One of the issues that people don't understand is that much of the limitation in considering multiple sources of information is a central attentional limitation. For example, many people think that "hands free" cell phones eliminate the risks of talking on the cell phone and driving. In fact, they do help with some of the mechanics of driving but hands free does not eliminate the distraction provided by a cell phone conversation. To the extent that a driver is paying attention to the conversation they are less aware of the driving conditions around them. Research indicates that the level of impairment is equivalent to driving at the legal limit for blood alcohol.There may be advantages to a HUD for sailing in that shifting one's gaze takes time and may change one's physical orientation but to the extent that a driver is paying attention to display there have to be reductions in their driving performance.

I think the impairment is actually pretty negligible. Having used ODAs during about 1000 hours of NVG flight I can say that while there is a pretty minor focal shift issue and it is possible to get target fixated, the drawbacks are offset by the user's increased situational awareness. I do know they wouldn't be allowed in the cockpit if they posed even a mild safety hazard. I think people flying aircraft, or people on the racing circuit have the mental capacity to multitask to the degree that the distraction doesn't become an impairment. Now, if only the same could be said for the average minivan driving soccer mom...

 

sailflat

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HUD's are not new and this application is not all that complicated either and not worth $28K (sorry bro) You can get a one eye HUD for less than $1K that can be plugged into a rugged net book and put it in your backpack. Interface with a wifi unit downbelow that is tapped into your NobleTech / Nav / B&G's / Web. Pull up anything anytime.
A remote watch display would be awesome for the rest of the crew, who could get data from the lead tech-tician. Perhaps a wifi comm system could be intergrated.

Imagine the possibilities....

Tech-tician: "Great take-down foredeck!"

Foredeck: "Thanks man"

Techtician: "No problem, I've uploaded a Jenna Jameson video to your watch for the long upwind beat"

Foredeck: "Sweet thanks! I'm glad I wore my watch on my left hand"
That is pretty funny...

You can slap together a cheap HUD strapped to a laptop in a backpack. And you will get just that, cheap. And it will die the first time it gets very wet.

Ever sail on a FAST, WET, boat like a mid size tri?

Checked and the consensus is we feel I can tell a little about it....

Our quality HUD is water resistant (wouldn't dunk it in the drink though) tied to a small purpose designed machine worn under a dry suit or fowlies. Button switch strapped to hand to switch btwn screens.

We did a lot of programming to get the screens usable displaying...

Sensor numerical outputs like speed and wind.

Performance characteristics like VMG and targets.

Waypoints

lay line graphics

Unfortunately a display that would "point" to waypoints in the real world mixing "virtual reality" and your position, direction, attitude, etc would require a HUD on a gyro sensing helmet mated with more computing power than we could cheaply put in a pocket. Estimated dev cost at least $175,000 using off the shelf tech.

Imagine looking to windard for a mark over the horizon and their being a virtual icon marking it's position. Or an icon marking a turning mark that you can't see 100m away at night, in the trough of a wave, in a storm. Yes there is GPS but one might possibly hit the mark or loose it while staring at the GPS; or if you put the GPS down you might pass the mark by 1000m at 20knts before you realize it.

Might be cool some day but not in our budget. :-(

 
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