Jobs hit a whopping 517,000 in January

SloopJonB

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A friend of mine got his engineering degree and an MBA. When he went to interviews he kept getting that "we're looking for experience" line until he finally snapped and said "Goddammit, how is anyone supposed to get experience if no-one will hire them?"

He got the job. :)
 
giegs

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Part of it is the desire for more specific training that can be turned into a "module" or "session". That impulse comes from multiple directions. New hires typically have a very simplistic understanding of what's being asked of them. They want to know what "the task" is and how to do it. They can point to a lack of training as the basis for a lack of action and associated accountability. It's not an unreasonable stance, but can be abused. Managers want to minimize the impact onboarding has on everything else they have going on, so they want off the shelf, self-directed training resources. Insurers want boxes checked and asses covered, but often have no meaningful conception of what workplace risk looks like beyond a crude actuarial sense. As long as they can collect premium and policy performance results in a net gain, they don't care if your workers are capable. That's your problem. If there's a catastrophic incident and boxes weren't checked, they can always bump rates or drop coverage.

Internally developed resources are usually inconsistent and depend on individual staff member's skills to be effective. You probably didn't hire your line manager for their pedagogical skills, are you asking them to develop a curriculum now? If training resources aren't developed internally, they're purchased from one of the many vendors. Most of their offerings are box checking and the companies that offer them almost always have their hair on fire. There's better options with in-person training, but that's an added expense and it'll still be general-industry focused unless you've gone through the effort to make adjustments.

The things we ask workers to do are rarely so reducible. There's a time and place for these approaches, but it's rare they're the best choice for developing the kind of competence and confidence that results in success. Companies that lean too heavily on the idea that boxes checked = competencies gained tend to struggle and become dumber over time. Honest answers to the question "Is this the best option for developing our workforce and ensuring operations can persist if key personnel are lost?" would almost always result in a different approach I think.

Apprenticeship, mentorship, mission-type orders/policy where possible, and knowing your insurer is suggesting things based on their counting of beans is a better way.
 
Sol Rosenberg

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Spin it up, bullshitters!
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Clove Hitch

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It's hilarious being a nurse. The jobs I have gotten have been exactly one application sent and one job offer received. Literally look through a couple hundred jobs and pick exactly what one you want and that is the one you will get. I think I'm going to mix things up and change nursing fields in june. I need a $10,000 signing bonus because the boat needs new standing rigging.

One hospital is offering a 20 grand signing bonus for a two-year commitment.

On the downside when it is my time I'm pretty sure the hospice service will make me work my own death
 
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Gouvernail

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it is so hard to find good employees, one New York State group has hired a guy to fill a government representative position who has lied about virtually every aspect of his resume
 
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WhoaTed

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Clove Hitch said:
It's hilarious being a nurse. The jobs I have gotten have been exactly one application sent and one job offer received. Literally look through a couple hundred jobs and pick exactly what one you want and that is the one you will get. I think I'm going to mix things up and change nursing fields in june. I need a $10,000 signing bonus because the boat needs new standing rigging.

One hospital is offering a 20 grand signing bonus for a two-year commitment.

On the downside when it is my time I'm pretty sure the hospice service will make me work my own death
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One of my daughters will have her nursing degree at the end of this semester; going to school full time during the day and working full time nights at the hospital (Anesthesia Tech & OR Tech) has been a tough grind. Add in a clinical shift once a week AND slowly upgrading her 123 year old house, she’s looking forward to a regular work schedule and making some serious dough. I’m very proud of her and can’t wait to see her enjoy the fruits of her labor. She definitely deserves it.
 
Clove Hitch

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WhoaTed said:
One of my daughters will have her nursing degree at the end of this semester; going to school full time during the day and working full time nights at the hospital (Anesthesia Tech & OR Tech) has been a tough grind. Add in a clinical shift once a week AND slowly upgrading her 123 year old house, she’s looking forward to a regular work schedule and making some serious dough. I’m very proud of her and can’t wait to see her enjoy the fruits of her labor. She definitely deserves it.
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That's fantastic! Tell her that some units have shit staff and horrible ratios and some are ok. There is no reason to stick in a s***** place. There is not even any reason to start in the hospital.
 
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Clove Hitch said:
That's fantastic! Tell her that some units have shit staff and horrible ratios and some are ok. There is no reason to stick in a s***** place. There is not even any reason to start in the hospital.
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Thanks, I’ll pass it on. She’s considering the traveling option (domestic) to see some of the country while she’s young and single, and make some huge dough. She currently works at the big Spectrum hospital in downtown Grand Rapids and has already had offers from the units she’s worked in the past 5 years (her bosses have loved her), she thinks they’re a pretty good organization for a large corporation. She loves the ICU and worked the COVID unit for 3 months when first broke out, it was brutal. It’ll be interesting to see what she decides to do.
 
Bus Driver

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WhoaTed said:
Thanks, I’ll pass it on. She’s considering the traveling option (domestic) to see some of the country while she’s young and single, and make some huge dough. She currently works at the big Spectrum hospital in downtown Grand Rapids and has already had offers from the units she’s worked in the past 5 years (her bosses have loved her), she thinks they’re a pretty good organization for a large corporation. She loves the ICU and worked the COVID unit for 3 months when first broke out, it was brutal. It’ll be interesting to see what she decides to do.
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Best of luck to her. A truly noble profession.
 
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