Jules Verne Trophy 2020
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Better than nothing, both trackers on the same page here :
https://www.ouest-france.fr/sport/voile/trophee-jules-verne/record-trophee-jules-verne-positions-de-coville-sodebo-et-cammas-caudrelier-gitana-7061643
Gitana is now clearly in the lead (and have started 31 minutes later)
https://www.ouest-france.fr/sport/voile/trophee-jules-verne/record-trophee-jules-verne-positions-de-coville-sodebo-et-cammas-caudrelier-gitana-7061643
Gitana is now clearly in the lead (and have started 31 minutes later)
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Bebmoumoute
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Your Mom
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I'm trying to sort out the full status of boats capable of running for Jules Verne... Which I guess means Ultimes... I'm not sure of the exact definition of an Ultime, nor how many exist. My impression is that it's basically all of the foiling trimarans larger than MOD 70s... Here's the list of what I can find...
Sodebo Ultim 3: 32 meters, launched 2019, skippered by Coville, racing JV now.
Maxi Edmond de Rothschild, aka Gitana 17: 32 meters, launched 2017, skippered by Cammas and Caudrelier, racing JV now.
Actual Leader: Previously Sodebo Ultim, 31 meters, launched, 2014, refit 2019, skippered by Yves le Blevec. Status?
MACIF: 30 meters, launched 2015. Not sure of its status or current skipper.
IDEC Sport, previously Groupama 3 and BPVII: 31.5 meters, launched 2006. Current JV record holder. Skippered by Joyon. Status?
Spindrift 2: 40 meters, launched 2008, skippered by Bertareli and Guichard. Doing a refit now for 2021.
So... That's six, assuming the list shouldn't include the fleet of MOD 70s. Are there more? Of the six, two are racing, and one is known to be doing a refit. Status on the other three?
Sodebo Ultim 3: 32 meters, launched 2019, skippered by Coville, racing JV now.
Maxi Edmond de Rothschild, aka Gitana 17: 32 meters, launched 2017, skippered by Cammas and Caudrelier, racing JV now.
Actual Leader: Previously Sodebo Ultim, 31 meters, launched, 2014, refit 2019, skippered by Yves le Blevec. Status?
MACIF: 30 meters, launched 2015. Not sure of its status or current skipper.
IDEC Sport, previously Groupama 3 and BPVII: 31.5 meters, launched 2006. Current JV record holder. Skippered by Joyon. Status?
Spindrift 2: 40 meters, launched 2008, skippered by Bertareli and Guichard. Doing a refit now for 2021.
So... That's six, assuming the list shouldn't include the fleet of MOD 70s. Are there more? Of the six, two are racing, and one is known to be doing a refit. Status on the other three?
Keith
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The best thing about your list is the oldest boat has the current record.. 
TPG
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MACIF sold to Actual Leader and in the shed now.
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Bebmoumoute
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Technically, the Ultim class limits entries to 32 m length and 23 m beam, but that is only for event with a class label.
Actual just purchased the old MACIF from 2015. I don't know what they will do with the old Actual / older Sodebo.
A new MACIF is due to be launched in the Spring 2021, but MACIF just pulled out, so Gabart is looking for a sponsor to carry on.
Spindrift seems to be in sleep mode, they have been really unlucky in their last 3 attemps.
A new Banque Populaire is also to be launched next year for Armel Le Cleac'h after they lost the previous one during the 2019 transat Jacques Vabre.
I believe there is a modified MOD70 with foils owned by Giovanni Soldini currently having a refit, not sure what they will do with it.
TPG
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BPXI should be done soon. Floats were moved to the fit out shed a week or two ago. Last target was December, but who knows with the latest lockdown if that's still the target.
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Bebmoumoute
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There was a bit of hiding between the teams. Sodebo was the first to decide to go, and Gitana kinda followed. They didn't think that the weather was great, but since Sodebo went; they thought why not?
Gitana started around 32 minutes later than Sodebo, clearly aiming at the same window (but yes, they choose their start time independently)
(and Gitana is ahead of Sodebo currently)
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stief
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Would be great to see the JVT and the VG on Windy
Kevin Saliou is willing, but I'd be surprised if Gitana and Sodebo respond.
Kevin Saliou is willing, but I'd be surprised if Gitana and Sodebo respond.
stief
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Speaking of the record, the dream scenario would be Sodebo finishes first with a new record, and then Gitana (who started ~30 mins later than Sodebo), finishes a few minutes behind, setting a new record too.
#justdreaming
#justdreaming
TPG
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stief
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Planning or Publicising? Too funny, but don't think Triest agrees.
Waiting for Kevin to start looking at a Zezo plugin :lol:
stief
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Match race video
Come on, windy or whatever are just nice or less nice displays, but they all use the output of the same models, basically GFS or ECMWF.
Btw, somebody told me that a lot of the input data for these models was coming from planes "regular flights", so that due to covid the current input data (and so the output as well) are currently less reliable, anybody knows if that is really the case ?
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stief
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True, apparently
https://community.windy.com/topic/11633/drop-in-aircraft-observations-could-have-impact-on-weather-forecasts?_=1606330198496
no many flights shown over the vg route here
https://www.ecmwf.int/en/forecasts/charts/monitoring/dcover?facets=undefined&time=2020112506,0,2020112506&obs=aircraft&Flag=all
https://community.windy.com/topic/11633/drop-in-aircraft-observations-could-have-impact-on-weather-forecasts?_=1606330198496
no many flights shown over the vg route here
https://www.ecmwf.int/en/forecasts/charts/monitoring/dcover?facets=undefined&time=2020112506,0,2020112506&obs=aircraft&Flag=all
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stief
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But Marcel and Nélias apparently pay for better sat data. Wouldn't be surprised if they share the cost
