Kashoggi report

Xlot

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Unobjectionable. Raises the small detail, though, of why the Soleimani assassination was sacrosanct, instead

 
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badlatitude

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The report pretty much disgusted me. We already knew that the Crown Prince okayed the killing, the report merely confirms that. Declaring that the US won't penalize the Crown Prince is a Biden act of cowardice. No one should be above the law in outright premeditated murder.

 

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Is this an example of "telling it like it is"? 

Trump told biographer Bob Woodward of the crown prince, "I saved his ass." Woodward wrote in his book "Rage" that in January 2020, Trump also boasted that "I was able to get Congress to leave him alone. I was able to get them to stop."

 

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Is this an example of "telling it like it is"? 

Trump told biographer Bob Woodward of the crown prince, "I saved his ass." Woodward wrote in his book "Rage" that in January 2020, Trump also boasted that "I was able to get Congress to leave him alone. I was able to get them to stop."
Trump wanted to save his arms deal with the Saudis at all costs. Turning a blind eye to the atrocities in Yemen too.

Face it, if the Turks are OK with a murder in an embassy on their soil, then there's not much we can do. We don't have to hand out cookies though

- DSK

 

Xlot

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Declaring that the US won't penalize the Crown Prince is a Biden act of cowardice. No one should be above the law in outright premeditated murder.
Hadn’t seen that. Don’t know why they bothered to raise the subject again, then

 
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Sol Rosenberg

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We looked the other way at the time but we did it very strongly. Many people were saying it. They said “SIR! The strength with which you looked the other way was tremendous!” Belief me!

 

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The Saudi culture is Barbaric. In addition to Kashoggi’s murder they’ve kidnapped and disappeared their citizens around the world.  Here in the US when their scumbag citizens rape, assault or otherwise harm Americans they fly them out of the county on private Jets to avoid justice.

My reasonable solution?  Stop further arms sales to the RSA.  Embrace Iran.  End sanctions.  The Persian culture is old and magnificent,  and has made many scientific and cultural contributions to the world.  They are naturally aligned with the West if we only stop meddling with them.

 
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hasher

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Is this an example of "telling it like it is"? 

Trump told biographer Bob Woodward of the crown prince, "I saved his ass." Woodward wrote in his book "Rage" that in January 2020, Trump also boasted that "I was able to get Congress to leave him alone. I was able to get them to stop."
Getting fish to bite the worm with a hook in it resembles a wonderful quality.  The Congress, if they had been taught to suck themselves off, they wouldn't need us.

 
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Mrleft8

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The Saudi culture is Barbaric. In addition to Kashoggi’s murder they’ve kidnapped and disappeared their citizens around the world.  Here in the US when their scumbag citizens rape, assault or otherwise harm Americans they fly them out of the county on private Jets to avoid justice.

My reasonable solution?  Stop further arms sales to the RSA.  Embrace Iran.  End sanctions.  The Persian culture is old and magnificent,  and has made many scientific and cultural contributions to the world.  They are naturally aligned with the West if we only stop meddling with them.

 

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Hadn’t seen that. Don’t know why they bothered to raise the subject again, then
They raised it because the Intelligence Community was going to release their confidential report. I don't know what equation the administration used to determine this conclusion, but it is one of the worst possible for a new admin.

 

Sol Rosenberg

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How many times must we watch Saudis kill Americans before we take action, or at least stop looking the other way?

we talk a good game about not appeasing dictators but we as a country sure appease the shit out of the Saudis, and one entire party appeases the shit out of their wanna be dictator. 
 

Fuck Saudi Arabia. Cut off all military support and/or sales. Debate severing all ties. 

 

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How many times must we watch Saudis kill Americans before we take action, or at least stop looking the other way?

we talk a good game about not appeasing dictators but we as a country sure appease the shit out of the Saudis, and one entire party appeases the shit out of their wanna be dictator. 
 

Fuck Saudi Arabia. Cut off all military support and/or sales. Debate severing all ties. 
Because oil?

Because God says we must support Israel, no matter what?  ... oh wait

- DSK

 

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So what's the Biden administration going to do now that we have this report?

 

Sol Rosenberg

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Because oil?

Because God says we must support Israel, no matter what?  ... oh wait

- DSK
Energy independence would allow us to say FU. Not just oil but not excluding it either. Cultivate our independence. Of course that would not play well with the Best Americans, so the country’s interests can take a back seat. 

 

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