Kashoggi report

Steam Flyer

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Energy independence would allow us to say FU. Not just oil but not excluding it either. Cultivate our independence. Of course that would not play well with the Best Americans, so the country’s interests can take a back seat. 
The funny thing to me... well, it would be funny if not for the rank hypocrisy... the Best Americans are touting how we are now supposedly exporting fossil fuels, that we don't need no stinkin' renewable enviro-friendly energy etc etc, and at the same time they are ALSO in favor of pipelines from Canada to bring in fossil fuel.

Hello? Can we have just some tiny resemblance to something consistent, at least... we'll work on rational, later

- DSK

 

Burning Man

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Burning Man

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The report pretty much disgusted me. We already knew that the Crown Prince okayed the killing, the report merely confirms that. Declaring that the US won't penalize the Crown Prince is a Biden act of cowardice. No one should be above the law in outright premeditated murder.
Also, if that report disgusts you..... I presume that you refuse to buy any chinese made goods AND support the US and the West from completely cutting off china from any and all global trade and be sanctioned to the hilt.  Because the chinese human rights abuses and outright murders make MBS looks like Mary Mother of fucking Jesus! 

 

Burning Man

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Real politik for the world, cowardice for American values.
African-American Please!  I'm not saying you're wrong.  But when has "American values" ever gotten in the way of National Security or global strategery?  We overlook human rights abuses all the time when it serves (or doesn't serve) our interests.  That is one of the truly bipartisan traits we have.  It is one of the things we also share with the vast majority of our allies as well.  Does Manus Island ring any bells?  

 
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badlatitude

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Also, if that report disgusts you..... I presume that you refuse to buy any chinese made goods AND support the US and the West from completely cutting off china from any and all global trade and be sanctioned to the hilt.  Because the chinese human rights abuses and outright murders make MBS looks like Mary Mother of fucking Jesus! 
I could't care less about China, if Biden want's to start something, it has my approval and support. The legions of my faithful followers don't follow me for advice about China.

 

Mark K

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It's complicated. However the reason behind it is that it is not a great stretch to say that the world's financial (at least our world's) system hinges on the existence of the US/Saudi petrodollar. 

 https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/072915/how-petrodollars-affect-us-dollar.asp

This is what made the US dollar the world's currency, and the total scope of the  benefits we reap from this are all but impossible to quantify. Blow this up and what happens to the US now that we have financialized out economy? Impossible to fathom.  

 On the OP,  there is nothing in common between Soleimani and Kashoggi. Nothing. 

 

badlatitude

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So?  I'm sure there are lots of chinese (hundreds if not thousands) who lived and worked in the US that are now dead or in "re-education" camps at the hands of a brutally oppressive regime.  Where are your crocodile tears for them?
Asked and answered.

 

Fakenews

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RSA?  Gaytor, You're even dumber than I gave you credit for.  

Note: R and K are not even close to each other on the keyboard.  
Was looking at a nice bottle of Riesling from RSA as I was typing.  It was very refreshing..

FN

 
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Burning Man

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Was looking at a nice bottle of Riesling from RSA as I was typing.  It was very refreshing..

FN
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Fakenews

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rantro said:
"Hello?  Yes Greta it did come from the other side of the wold when there are perfectly good wineries much nearer to me and really all I want is the alcohol."
Astro, yo ou ingorant slut,  good American Riesling is tough to find.   The best wines of that variety are from Germany and South Africa.  Similarly, I do not source Scotch from Kentucky.

 
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Xlot

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On the OP,  there is nothing in common between Soleimani and Kashoggi. Nothing. 
Hmm ... lured to an extrajudicial assassination in a third country ... you’re right, nothing in common

 
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