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DoRag

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walterbshaffer said:
DoRag said:
Snaggletooth said:
Footlong said:
Uo to 126 boats. 7 more to match last year.
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Notte dede yet!
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I'm not sure that just matching last year provides sufficient revenue for Peter and Premier to continue the event. After all, Premier is in this primarily to generate a profit.

So, the question becomes just how long will they subsidize the event whilst awaiting a recovery in the sport. My guess would be that the sport will not recover to [prior levels in the next five years, if within the next ten years. The dynamics of the economy won't support this sport (and other sports)for some time. Couples are resorting to two wage earners to survive. There are many, many unadressed issues that will suppress any recovery. take Cali, for example. The state is bankrupt. There are billions and billions of unfunded piublic employees pensions and benefits. Who will underwrite this? The Feds have already had to underwritye a portion of Cali bonds in order to fund operations. Other states have objected to that. Why, for example, should a taxpayer in Idaho (who has a balanced budget) pay federal taxes to undewrwrite a state like Cali that refuses to address budget issues?

Yeah, I know - take it to PA. I only raise the issue to point out the possible future for KWRW, not to mention, the sport in Cali, among other states.
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yeah yeah you're right take it to PA but for many years CA has paid more to the feds in taxes than we get back in bennies so pay back is due.
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Perhaps, but you can imagine the reaction from other states when this issue hits the press next year? Take our taxes to support Pelosi, Boxer and Brown's Cali? Nope, ain't gonna happen - the last election tells us that.

 
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Holy shit! Do Rag writes something I almost agree with (except he only blames the Dems for Cali problems and skips Arnold for not fixing shit in his term) and Clean almost sounds reasonable in a post about Premiere! The end of the world must be near...I'll go pray now.

Cheers, Winever. ;) ;)

 
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DoRag

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Winever said:
Holy shit! Do Rag writes something I almost agree with (except he only blames the Dems for Cali problems and skips Arnold for not fixing shit in his term) and Clean almost sounds reasonable in a post about Premiere! The end of the world must be near...I'll go pray now.

Cheers, Winever. ;) ;)
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No, I wasn't assessing blame. I was only saying that the current contigent of Cali government officals will not be supported on a bailout by the bulk of the country.

Now you agree with me 100%. Imagine that? Agreeing with D'Rag.......wow!

 
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walterbshaffer said:
DoRag said:
Snaggletooth said:
Footlong said:
Uo to 126 boats. 7 more to match last year.
Click to expand...
Notte dede yet!
Click to expand...
I'm not sure that just matching last year provides sufficient revenue for Peter and Premier to continue the event. After all, Premier is in this primarily to generate a profit.

So, the question becomes just how long will they subsidize the event whilst awaiting a recovery in the sport. My guess would be that the sport will not recover to [prior levels in the next five years, if within the next ten years. The dynamics of the economy won't support this sport (and other sports)for some time. Couples are resorting to two wage earners to survive. There are many, many unadressed issues that will suppress any recovery. take Cali, for example. The state is bankrupt. There are billions and billions of unfunded piublic employees pensions and benefits. Who will underwrite this? The Feds have already had to underwritye a portion of Cali bonds in order to fund operations. Other states have objected to that. Why, for example, should a taxpayer in Idaho (who has a balanced budget) pay federal taxes to undewrwrite a state like Cali that refuses to address budget issues?

Yeah, I know - take it to PA. I only raise the issue to point out the possible future for KWRW, not to mention, the sport in Cali, among other states.
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yeah yeah you're right take it to PA but for many years CA has paid more to the feds in taxes than we get back in bennies so pay back is due.
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Great piece on 60 Minutes this week about this. I will take it to PA also to discuss more.

 
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Winever

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You know there are a couple of skippers out there working on a last minute Christmas gift to receive a kitchen pass to Key West in return. It's better to give and receive than just to give. WInever.

 
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Miami Grand Prix on Yacht Scoring...

2011 Miami Grand Prix

Miami Beach Marina

Miami, FL, USA

March 10 - 13, 2011

Online Entry Form / Application - Closed

For registration or late entries contact the office

anyone know why is it is closed?

 
footlong

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Miami Grand Prix on Yacht Scoring...

2011 Miami Grand Prix

Miami Beach Marina

Miami, FL, USA

March 10 - 13, 2011

Online Entry Form / Application - Closed

For registration or late entries contact the office

anyone know why is it is closed?
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Maybe it's DEAD!!!

(better ask Espo)

 
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