johnnysaint
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Out of curiosity (and it's raining here so nothing else to do) I googled Premiere Racing. No mention of Miama regatta being cancelled. NOR is still up. Am I on the wrong regatta or website?
Key West 2011
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davidprobable
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Why doesn't somebody bring back SORC? Bring back IOR and lots of boats that still exist and race would come down. I would happily bring a 43 down with the crew rescued from old folks homes to crew. This would work as they have more money than God or Clean and would pay to bring back nostalgia..........the new breed of cookie cutter javex bottles have 2 foot arms and 4 foot pockets and thats why KWRW will die............poor people or phoney rich people are like tits on a bull............they don't survive.
MR.CLEAN
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They're not that great at communication JS. I did just confirm with Melges 32 Class and J/105 Class that Miami is cancelled, and that M32s are looking to hold a standalone event a few weeks before or after Premier had planned theirs.
I think Charleston and Bacardi are going to be the big beneficiaries of this one, and Charleston is offering free storage to everyone entered in Miami from January to April if they use Pierside boatworks to do their launch and haul.
http://www.charlestonraceweek.com/logistical-planning/storage-haul-launch/
I think Charleston and Bacardi are going to be the big beneficiaries of this one, and Charleston is offering free storage to everyone entered in Miami from January to April if they use Pierside boatworks to do their launch and haul.
http://www.charlestonraceweek.com/logistical-planning/storage-haul-launch/
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MR.CLEAN
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2011 MIAMI GRAND PRIX
After very careful review, Premiere Racing has determined that it is in the best interest of the event and prospective competitors to enact a one year hiatus with their Miami Grand Prix regatta.
Current entry registrations, coupled with less than optimistic projections, indicate that critical mass for the March regatta will not be achieved. Our hopes and expectations are that this event will resume in 2012, however, it will require an early and concerted promotion and sponsorship procurement effort coupled with a turnaround in the racing sailors’ willingness to again participate in travel regattas.
The Farr 40 class, one of the major Miami one design classes in past years, is unable to participate in 2011 with their World Championship in Sydney Australia next February. The J/105 class has made an effort to build interest, but projections suggest fewer than 5 entries, and IRC interest has been lacking. The Melges 32 would constitute the largest class, but their numbers would likely have been off somewhat from recent years given their recent World Championship in San Francisco and an early winter class regatta in Ft Lauderdale.
The global economy and the ever-increasing pressure on leisure time appear to be impacting many boat owners’ ability and/or willingness to travel to regattas. This has been borne out at any number of events across the country over the past couple of years.
Despite signs of a rebound in the economy, the sponsorship environment remains very difficult and the Title Sponsor position for the Miami regatta remains vacant for a second consecutive year. The business model for executing a remote event (Premiere Racing is located in Boston, MA) with no yacht club infrastructure or title sponsor, coupled with an undersized fleet, simply does not work.
While we regret having to make this announcement, it is not practical for Premiere Racing or in anyone’s best interest to host an event that falls short of expectations from a competitive standpoint and the high standards that have been achieved at past Miami Grand Prix regattas. We will assess the willingness of boat owners to travel, classes to engage, as well as the sponsor environment over the next 6-8 months before determining the future of the Miami Grand Prix in 2012 and beyond.
I would like to acknowledge the support from the Christofs’ Miami Beach Marina, Tom Glassie’s Avalon and South Seas Hotels and Dave Brennan’s crack race management team, all three of which have been instrumental in the success of the Miami Grand Prix in past years.
Peter S. Craig
Premiere Racing, Inc.
Office: 781-639-9545
Mobile: 617-755-7316
Fax: 781-639-9171
Skype: petercraig.pri
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.Premiere-Racing.com
After very careful review, Premiere Racing has determined that it is in the best interest of the event and prospective competitors to enact a one year hiatus with their Miami Grand Prix regatta.
Current entry registrations, coupled with less than optimistic projections, indicate that critical mass for the March regatta will not be achieved. Our hopes and expectations are that this event will resume in 2012, however, it will require an early and concerted promotion and sponsorship procurement effort coupled with a turnaround in the racing sailors’ willingness to again participate in travel regattas.
The Farr 40 class, one of the major Miami one design classes in past years, is unable to participate in 2011 with their World Championship in Sydney Australia next February. The J/105 class has made an effort to build interest, but projections suggest fewer than 5 entries, and IRC interest has been lacking. The Melges 32 would constitute the largest class, but their numbers would likely have been off somewhat from recent years given their recent World Championship in San Francisco and an early winter class regatta in Ft Lauderdale.
The global economy and the ever-increasing pressure on leisure time appear to be impacting many boat owners’ ability and/or willingness to travel to regattas. This has been borne out at any number of events across the country over the past couple of years.
Despite signs of a rebound in the economy, the sponsorship environment remains very difficult and the Title Sponsor position for the Miami regatta remains vacant for a second consecutive year. The business model for executing a remote event (Premiere Racing is located in Boston, MA) with no yacht club infrastructure or title sponsor, coupled with an undersized fleet, simply does not work.
While we regret having to make this announcement, it is not practical for Premiere Racing or in anyone’s best interest to host an event that falls short of expectations from a competitive standpoint and the high standards that have been achieved at past Miami Grand Prix regattas. We will assess the willingness of boat owners to travel, classes to engage, as well as the sponsor environment over the next 6-8 months before determining the future of the Miami Grand Prix in 2012 and beyond.
I would like to acknowledge the support from the Christofs’ Miami Beach Marina, Tom Glassie’s Avalon and South Seas Hotels and Dave Brennan’s crack race management team, all three of which have been instrumental in the success of the Miami Grand Prix in past years.
Peter S. Craig
Premiere Racing, Inc.
Office: 781-639-9545
Mobile: 617-755-7316
Fax: 781-639-9171
Skype: petercraig.pri
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.Premiere-Racing.com
MR.CLEAN
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hobart got bumped for barcelona because we think promoting it and american ryan b is more important. Moth Worlds tickets are in hand but I think we are about to trade them back in and go home after this because of the wing issues and the fact that the event has no real budget for live streaming.
boatshit
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... so that's it, "The global economy and the ever-increasing pressure on leisure time appear to be impacting many boat owners’ ability and/or willingness to travel to regattas." Bummer.
DoRag
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The M32 class should hardly be considered a pulse monitor for any sailing issues. FFS, DeVos shows up twice. It's bang for the buck, if I'm going to travel, I really want a guaranty that I will have x out of x days of good sailing. That and distances make CRW the enjoyment/cost ratio leader for the winter months. It still doesn't offer the Jan/Feb fix.
MR.CLEAN
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Miami GP would still be the leader if Craig didn't fuck it up so badly. It's not the venue, as proven by the success of the sportboat and star regattas in Miami that popped up quickly after Premiere went away. It's the management and the fact that he only wanted the big margin product in his shop. Problem is that Acura didn't like that 'cause the big margin product is the first to go when the economy does, and if you've alienated the shit out of the small margin/high volume product in the meantime, you're fucked. Just like Key West.
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L Z
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I'm at a loss for words once again, Alan. You just don't see what you guys have managed to, and continue to do. For over 20 years KWRW and MGP were doing fine and growing. Everyone would return from KWRW and brag about how good KWRW was. Sure they had their issues over the years like every one does. But they were just fine until you started with your writing, your personal issues with PC/PR, your issues of "transparency", the nitpicking on every detail of every event, trashing them anytime you could because they didn't have you or SA working with/for them. Your dislike and the public rivalry that you created with Peter Craig and your complete tearing of PR / KWRW / MGP at EVERY opportunity you get is sickening and childish. You have managed discredit and destroy one event but you're not giving it up. You're still working on finishing the other. Nice work.
For all your bragging about SA being the best, the largest, most innovative, most traffic, most powerful most everything web site and community in the World, you should using to to help grow the sport. Not destroy it. That's what you have accomplished, whether you like it or not.
So the economy has placed a huge grey cloud on the sport over the last few years preventing many from doing what they like and attending events they were used to. That's when we need you/SA most to brag about the good things about the sport, supporting the events and helping the sport sustain itself.
The sport Thanks you for helping it grow!
BTW, your assessment above of MGP is incorrect, absurd and ridiculous but amusing for some one that is completely outside of the Organization and Management of the event.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and Good Bye.
LZ
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jesposito
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Iamnottelling
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Clean,
I would think that considering the industry you are in that you should support anyone who goes through all the work to create an event. I have always been impressed by how they run Key West for the last 7 years that I have been there.
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MR.CLEAN
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Wait a second.
I did it?
Umm...right.
You are just as bad as he is. Point the finger everywhere except at the person who actually fucked it up.
We all said this would happen when he shitcanned the small boats. Guess what? The small boats are doing just fine...at the same venue they used to race with Premiere.
But I see...I did it.
MR.CLEAN
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You are going to perpetuate the same illness that led to the death of Miami Race Week if you continue to blame the economy for the destruction of events. JUST STOP IT.
People are still sailing. Events are still growing. Bacardi. Charlotte Harbor. Charleston. Whidby Island. SA's regatta. Long Beach. And dozens more. Yes it is harder, which is why regatta organizers with any sense are figuring out new ways to deal with it rather than sitting on their asses and blaming the economy. Negotiate better hotel deals for visiting teams. Get your members to host some. Cut down the dinner menu. Get kegs of beer instead of full bars. Strike hard bargains with logistics providers and storage providers to cut costs to the teams. Why is it brain surgery?
SA is only as big as it is because it is honest. If it were the kind of full-of-shit website that you'd like to see, we'd have ten thousand readers like scuttlebutt instead of a million. So what 'you need' SA to brag about is irrelevant: we will not lie for you, your friends at Premiere, or the sport of sailing.
And finally, Key West and Miami were both on the decline for more than two years before I ever worked for sailing anarchy. 2003 was the last time either grew, long before there was any 'public rivalry' between Premiere and us. So quit lying about facts and making up stories to make you and your pal peter feel better.
And finally Mr. President: If you keep up this bullshit attitude, pretending that things are just 'out of your hands', US-IRC isn't going to be far behind. Get with the fucking program and quit blaming anyone except the douchebag that killed it.
Gorn FRANTIC!!
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