Largest One Design Participation Numbers?

[RogerJolly]

1 Laser Radial - 135.67

2 Sunfish - 79.33

3 Thistle - 74.00

4 E Scow - 71.00

5 Flying Scot - 67.67

6 MC Scow - 67.33

7 Laser - 63.67

8 C Scow - 62.67

9 Lighting - 55.33

10 Formula 18 - 53.00

11 Albacore - 51.00

12 Hobie 16 - 42.33

13 29er - 41.67

14 Snipe - 40.33

15 J/22 - 39.67

16 Ensign - 37.33

16 Shark - 37.33

18 Etchells - 36.00

19 Atlantic - 35.67

20 Star - 34.33

21 A Class - 34.00

22 Cal 20 - 33.33

22 Y Flyer - 33.33

24 Interlake - 33.00

25 J/105 - 31.33

25 Viper 640 - 31.33

27 J/70 - 29.67*

27 Melges 17 - 29.67

29 Butterfly - 29.00

30 J/24 - 28.33

30 505 - 28.33

32 Inter Club - 28.00

33 Vanguard 15 - 27.33

34 Lido 14 - 27.00

35 Laser 4.7 - 26.33

36 Melges 20 - 26.00

37 Melges 24 - 25.67

38 Bucaneer 18 - 25.33

39 Highlander - 25.00

39 Tartan Ten - 25.00

* 3 year average 89/3

 

[sunseeker]

1 Laser Radial - 135.67

2 Sunfish - 79.33

3 Thistle - 74.00

4 E Scow - 71.00

5 Flying Scot - 67.67

6 MC Scow - 67.33

7 Laser - 63.67

8 C Scow - 62.67

9 Lighting - 55.33

10 Formula 18 - 53.00

11 Albacore - 51.00

12 Hobie 16 - 42.33

13 29er - 41.67

14 Snipe - 40.33

15 J/22 - 39.67

16 Ensign - 37.33

16 Shark - 37.33

18 Etchells - 36.00

19 Atlantic - 35.67

20 Star - 34.33

21 A Class - 34.00

22 Cal 20 - 33.33

22 Y Flyer - 33.33

24 Interlake - 33.00

25 J/105 - 31.33

25 Viper 640 - 31.33

27 J/70 - 29.67*

27 Melges 17 - 29.67

29 Butterfly - 29.00

30 J/24 - 28.33

30 505 - 28.33

32 Inter Club - 28.00

33 Vanguard 15 - 27.33

34 Lido 14 - 27.00

35 Laser 4.7 - 26.33

36 Melges 20 - 26.00

37 Melges 24 - 25.67

38 Bucaneer 18 - 25.33

39 Highlander - 25.00

39 Tartan Ten - 25.00

* 3 year average 89/3

These numbers are basically meaningless. They are a snapshot of one regatta for each class. The real question is how many times do boats in each class cross a starting line in the US through the entire year. How many truly active sailors in each class. Include club and regional events. Some of these classes are one trick traveling ponies with only a few hundred people sailing in the class but traveling everywhere. Some classes have much deeper local and regional competition.

 

[Chris 249]

1 Laser Radial - 135.67

2 Sunfish - 79.33

3 Thistle - 74.00

4 E Scow - 71.00

5 Flying Scot - 67.67

6 MC Scow - 67.33

7 Laser - 63.67

8 C Scow - 62.67

9 Lighting - 55.33

10 Formula 18 - 53.00

11 Albacore - 51.00

12 Hobie 16 - 42.33

13 29er - 41.67

14 Snipe - 40.33

15 J/22 - 39.67

16 Ensign - 37.33

16 Shark - 37.33

18 Etchells - 36.00

19 Atlantic - 35.67

20 Star - 34.33

21 A Class - 34.00

22 Cal 20 - 33.33

22 Y Flyer - 33.33

24 Interlake - 33.00

25 J/105 - 31.33

25 Viper 640 - 31.33

27 J/70 - 29.67*

27 Melges 17 - 29.67

29 Butterfly - 29.00

30 J/24 - 28.33

30 505 - 28.33

32 Inter Club - 28.00

33 Vanguard 15 - 27.33

34 Lido 14 - 27.00

35 Laser 4.7 - 26.33

36 Melges 20 - 26.00

37 Melges 24 - 25.67

38 Bucaneer 18 - 25.33

39 Highlander - 25.00

39 Tartan Ten - 25.00

* 3 year average 89/3

These numbers are basically meaningless. They are a snapshot of one regatta for each class. The real question is how many times do boats in each class cross a starting line in the US through the entire year. How many truly active sailors in each class. Include club and regional events. Some of these classes are one trick traveling ponies with only a few hundred people sailing in the class but traveling everywhere. Some classes have much deeper local and regional competition.

They are not meaningless. No one is saying that these figures tell you everything you need to know, or anything like that. They simply give us some valuable info that tracks some trends. That's better than relying on hype, gut feeling or wildly inaccurate info, which seem to be the only other suggestions that people make.

Yes, it would be great to track the number of boats that compete in any country. I would like to be involved in something international along such lines. It could be an interesting crowd-sourced international effort that could lead to some valuable insights.

But to write off the numbers created by JR (and the UK ones created by Y&Y) as "meaningless" is way off track.

 

[6924]

The numbers are 'meaningless' comment is a bit misplaced, but we should all recognize the limitations of this ( very useful ) list.

There certainly are a few classes which have very little sailing activity during the season, but dragoon a bunch to the intergalatics.

On the other hand, a Class like the T-10 has lots and lots of boats being actively sailed 1, 2, and even 3 times a week during the season.

BTW - where is the sportboat with cupholders ?


http://sailinganarchy.com/2013/10/05/cupholders/
Intergalatics for last 3 years

37, 34, 29 = 33.33 average

 

[Hobie Dog]

1 Laser Radial - 135.67

2 Sunfish - 79.33

3 Thistle - 74.00

4 E Scow - 71.00

5 Flying Scot - 67.67

6 MC Scow - 67.33

7 Laser - 63.67

8 C Scow - 62.67

9 Lighting - 55.33

10 Formula 18 - 53.00

11 Albacore - 51.00

12 Hobie 16 - 42.33

13 29er - 41.67

14 Snipe - 40.33

15 J/22 - 39.67

16 Ensign - 37.33

16 Shark - 37.33

18 Etchells - 36.00

19 Atlantic - 35.67

20 Star - 34.33

21 A Class - 34.00

22 Cal 20 - 33.33

22 Y Flyer - 33.33

24 Interlake - 33.00

25 J/105 - 31.33

25 Viper 640 - 31.33

27 J/70 - 29.67*

27 Melges 17 - 29.67

29 Butterfly - 29.00

30 J/24 - 28.33

30 505 - 28.33

32 Inter Club - 28.00

33 Vanguard 15 - 27.33

34 Lido 14 - 27.00

35 Laser 4.7 - 26.33

36 Melges 20 - 26.00

37 Melges 24 - 25.67

38 Bucaneer 18 - 25.33

39 Highlander - 25.00

39 Tartan Ten - 25.00

* 3 year average 89/3

These numbers are basically meaningless. They are a snapshot of one regatta for each class. The real question is how many times do boats in each class cross a starting line in the US through the entire year. How many truly active sailors in each class. Include club and regional events. Some of these classes are one trick traveling ponies with only a few hundred people sailing in the class but traveling everywhere. Some classes have much deeper local and regional competition.

As has been said the numbers are NOT meaningless. They show fleet numbers at Nationals for the top fleets.

Agree that having the total number boats racing in all regattas would be a great data point to have as well but good luck compiling all that data! It would be a challenge for most classes and almost impossible for something like the Laser class to capture all the regattas.

And thanks again RogerJolly!

 

[RogerJolly]

The numbers are 'meaningless' comment is a bit misplaced, but we should all recognize the limitations of this ( very useful ) list.

There certainly are a few classes which have very little sailing activity during the season, but dragoon a bunch to the intergalatics.

On the other hand, a Class like the T-10 has lots and lots of boats being actively sailed 1, 2, and even 3 times a week during the season.

BTW - where is the sportboat with cupholders ?


http://sailinganarchy.com/2013/10/05/cupholders/
Intergalatics for last 3 years

37, 34, 29 = 33.33 average

Can you send me a link to the Harbor 20 results you list above. I have been looking but haven't been able to find them.

 

[6924]

Jolly,

Those Harbor 20s, like to keep their secrets.

Sportboat w/ Cupholders intergalatics listed as the 'Harbor 20 Fleet One champs' -

http://www.nhyc.org/Default.aspx?p=DynamicModule&pageid=318210&ssid=209933&vnf=1