Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

[Wess]

Hey Gouv.

Like the new form!

Not up to much other than frostbiting! This thread was always just a fun place to stir and see what floated to the top.

There was never anything in the case that had any realistic chance of impacting me or my fleet. Always said, if I got a vote it would be to kick BKI, GSA and LPE all out of the game. Either way, I think the class is better off once its all done assuming the existing rules stay in place which is really all that matters and I think highly likely.

The Devil from CT looked to be fun and given all the snow they got we could have worked a Charlie Daniels joke into the thread but my heart is not into it wthout Cannt and Gouv (in old form). Plus there is an outside chance I could go frostbiting with the Devil this winter (headed up that way a lot visiting Academies w the kid) and I didn't want to spoil that. Messin w the Devil just seems wrong...

Stay warm!

 

[jeffers]

There's a fair bit of action in the case but very few documents posted on plainsite. Quite a lot of new documents posted are "sealed", ie confidential to lawyers only, so we wouldn't see them anyway.

Any solid evidence that this meeting took place?

If the meeting did take place, is there evidence that this plan was hatched?

Seems to me that the plan in question must have been the fundamental rule change. We know that PSA were pressuring ILCA to implement it, and we know that it was intended to enable PSA to put plaques on boats without authorisation from Kirby.

I thought it was LP and LPE who were pushing for the rule change? PSA were happily paying royalties (and still are to the best of my knowledge).

 

[Wess]

Just realized the Devil's posts disappeared from the thread. Geeze Gouv. How many sock puppets you got?

 

[JimC]

There's a fair bit of action in the case but very few documents posted on plainsite. Quite a lot of new documents posted are "sealed", ie confidential to lawyers only, so we wouldn't see them anyway.

Any solid evidence that this meeting took place?

If the meeting did take place, is there evidence that this plan was hatched?

Seems to me that the plan in question must have been the fundamental rule change. We know that PSA were pressuring ILCA to implement it, and we know that it was intended to enable PSA to put plaques on boats without authorisation from Kirby.

I thought it was LP and LPE who were pushing for the rule change? PSA were happily paying royalties (and still are to the best of my knowledge).

You're quite right. The last two posts I've typed PSA when I meant LP(E).

I'll remove them and repost since I can't edit

 

[JimC]

There's a fair bit of action in the case but very few documents posted on plainsite. Quite a lot of new documents posted are "sealed", ie confidential to lawyers only, so we wouldn't see them anyway.

Any solid evidence that this meeting took place?

If the meeting did take place, is there evidence that this plan was hatched?

Seems to me that the plan in question must have been the fundamental rule change. We know that PSA were pressuring ILCA to implement it, and we know that it was intended to enable PSA to put plaques on boats without authorisation from Kirby.

Don't forget good lawyers spin everything to put the worst possible interpretation on it. Lets rephrase...

"At the routine meeting between ILCA and Laser Performance amongst other topics discussed was a contingency plan to enable Laser construction to continue whilst the legal issues were sorted out. As with all such meetings Laser Performance paid the ILCA Representatives expenses."

I'm making an assumption that such meetings with all the builders are regular and expenses paid, but I should have thought they need to meet.

Don't get me wrong, I think ILCA were wrong and their conduct of the ballot disgraceful, but that doesn't mean that meeting was as much a conspiracy as clever writing implies.

 

[jeffers]

I was also told from an internal source at LP/LPE that the PSA boats are not being built to the construction manual. This may just be some shit slinging on their part as nothing has surfaced about measurement issues recently....

 

[ojfd]

I was also told from an internal source at LP/LPE that the PSA boats are not being built to the construction manual. This may just be some shit slinging on their part as nothing has surfaced about measurement issues recently....

This also might be the part of information/desinformation war and you just became the weapon of it by spreading the rumour.

If you, guys, are getting bored, take a look a BK's Laser trademark cancelling attempt. There's a lot of reading material.

http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=92057217&pty=CAN

 

[inhiding]

Fred, you are getting seriously deranged.

 

[couchsurfer]

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....getting?

 

[Bill5]

I always wondered if Charlie Brown would have done Lucy as a teenager or he would still be chasing the Little Red Haired Girl. But I bet he would have been a BK supporter.

 

[Guest]

While I am at it...

Couchsurfer played Eddie Haskel on Leave it to Beaver

Poopie Pants is actually Jeffie from Family Circus

Gannt and IPlore each have a "perry mason" complex

Wess is Dobie Gillis

Gouvernail was modestly based upon a character played by George Burns in a movie released October 7,1977

Gov, you are definitely beginning to lose it. Suggest you take a break for your own sake.....

 

[couchsurfer]

Fred, you are getting seriously deranged.

@¥£ , you are getting seriously deranged.

Did you just attempt to use the real name of a poster here??And include a personal attack??

Wanna post your name and address as well??

I have requested you be permanently banned from this site.

We shall now see if the rules apply to you.

.....maybe you should request that you're banned!? :mellow: in effect just outed yourself! :wacko: :lol:

 

[Wess]

This thread used to be fun entertainment with some good insights thrown in but now it's just strange!

 

[Wess]

Just an observation. Be well. I'm bailing out for now. Peace!

 

[inhiding]

Gouv, you are 60 some years old. Life is too short.

Get rid of these demons and enjoy what time you still have on this earth

This poison is only shortening your life.

 

[familysailor]

Yer wasting water--- Haven't you heard there's a drought happening?

 

[RMK]

isn't denial the first phase?

 

[SM123]

Praying for rain was Gov. Perry's solution.

Why not rain-dancers? Are there no native Americans who could be drafted in for this essential task?

But seriously, why do people vote for idiots who think that praying will make it rain?

 

[jeffers]

I was also told from an internal source at LP/LPE that the PSA boats are not being built to the construction manual. This may just be some shit slinging on their part as nothing has surfaced about measurement issues recently....

This also might be the part of information/desinformation war and you just became the weapon of it by spreading the rumour.

If you, guys, are getting bored, take a look a BK's Laser trademark cancelling attempt. There's a lot of reading material.

http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=92057217&pty=CAN

I am pretty sure it is shit slinging, as would most people be. Neither side is covering themselves in glory and are both doing more damage than good. It is the RYA Dinghy Show this weekend, I might go and wind up LPE over their training sail....

 

[ds2]

I was also told from an internal source at LP/LPE that the PSA boats are not being built to the construction manual. This may just be some shit slinging on their part as nothing has surfaced about measurement issues recently....

This also might be the part of information/desinformation war and you just became the weapon of it by spreading the rumour.If you, guys, are getting bored, take a look a BK's Laser trademark cancelling attempt. There's a lot of reading material.http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=92057217&pty=CAN

I am pretty sure it is shit slinging, as would most people be. Neither side is covering themselves in glory and are both doing more damage than good. It is the RYA Dinghy Show this weekend, I might go and wind up LPE over their training sail....

Be careful they don't set the lawyer's on you. You know what their like, just ask Mr kneewreaker