Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

[Bruce Hudson]

Thank you Gantt for clearing all that up.

It really is hard for me to understand your arguments but I appreciate your efforts to explain your positions.

I am sure we can agree on thing, that we both care passionately about the sport of Laser sailing.

Then we have at least two things in common, as I find it hard to understand your positions as well, particularly against Kirby for taking action against the ILCA.

I shall leave thanking you for trying to explain your positions until you give it a proper try.

 

[Wess]

Thank you Gantt for clearing all that up.

It really is hard for me to understand your arguments but I appreciate your efforts to explain your positions.

I am sure we can agree on thing, that we both care passionately about the sport of Laser sailing.

Then we have at least two things in common, as I find it hard to understand your positions as well, particularly against Kirby for taking action against the ILCA.

I shall leave thanking you for trying to explain your positions until you give it a proper try.

So sorry too disappoint but perhaps not all have the capacity to understand. Like that Wes guy...

 

[tillerman]

Thank you Gantt for clearing all that up.

It really is hard for me to understand your arguments but I appreciate your efforts to explain your positions.

I am sure we can agree on thing, that we both care passionately about the sport of Laser sailing.

Then we have at least two things in common, as I find it hard to understand your positions as well, particularly against Kirby for taking action against the ILCA.

I shall leave thanking you for trying to explain your positions until you give it a proper try.

Gantt you are the man.

Thanks so much for the advice to have a "proper" try at explaining why I don't like my class being sued for implementing a class rule change approved by a democratic vote of our members.

I have tried to be "proper" in everything I write on this forum, but perhaps not all have the capacity to understand.

Like that Tillermann guy.

 

[Wess]

Thank you Gantt for clearing all that up.

It really is hard for me to understand your arguments but I appreciate your efforts to explain your positions.

I am sure we can agree on thing, that we both care passionately about the sport of Laser sailing.

Then we have at least two things in common, as I find it hard to understand your positions as well, particularly against Kirby for taking action against the ILCA.

I shall leave thanking you for trying to explain your positions until you give it a proper try.

Gantt you are the man.

Thanks so much for the advice to have a "proper" try at explaining why I don't like my class being sued for implementing a class rule change approved by a democratic vote of our members.

I have tried to be "proper" in everything I write on this forum, but perhaps not all have the capacity to understand.

Like that Tillermann guy.

Hey hey, now I am really offended. For gosh sakes spell my name right. Tillermann indeed!!

Its Tillerman and you can find me at http://propercourse.blogspot.com/

And I think Wes needs to read: http://propercourse.blogspot.com/2007/12/ten-reasons-why-sunfish-are-better-than.html

In China!

But that knucklehead is likely headed off to get on the water again...

A horse is a horse, improper course...

http://horsesmouth.typepad.com/hm/

 

[Wess]

OK, its Memorial Day and this always reminds me of lifting a Laser mast in breeze.


I'm going to go thank a few friends and family for their service, and hoist a sail myself.

 

[Wess]

Gouv -

Likely not the thread for serious matters but if that topic is a passion then while there are folks on my end that assist this organization (and I believe you know how to contact me) you might start by reaching out on your end here: http://www.honorflightaustin.org/

Regards.

 

[Wess]

Oh nooooo. I just wrote a big long thing about Clift my 92 year old friend who is going to the event.

His Ensign is at my shop and we just made it as pretty as I know how. Absolutely better than new.

Clift says he never could have been a doctor except for the fact the Navy paid his way through med school

He says, "They are going to put us in wheel chairs and give us the red carpet treatment tour of Washington"

He is thrilled he gets to go. It is very soon or just happened. His son and I are handling the boat refurbishing.

Clift bought it new fifty years ago.

Clift also plunked down a significant chunk of change to help purchase the land where Austin Yacht Club sits today.

I could go on all day about the bunch of old navy doctors who spearheaded the creation of Austin Yacht club as a landed institution as opposed to a bunch of guys who met on the lake

Hope he had a good trip if he was out for the 27-28th. But lets take that off line and please do PM me if he is coming out later in the year on one of the other flights.

We now return you to the canntt understand or explain show also featuring the people who don't sail Lasers band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjCSK0oOlI

Regards,

Al (aka Tillerman, aka Bill Crane, aka Wesley, etc...)

PS - I just want to get back to fishing with my ip lure.

 

[Bruce Hudson]

Gantt you are the man.

Thanks so much for the advice to have a "proper" try at explaining why I don't like my class being sued for implementing a class rule change approved by a democratic vote of our members.

I have tried to be "proper" in everything I write on this forum, but perhaps not all have the capacity to understand.

Like that Tillermann guy.

I hear you Tiller Man, that you are trying as hard as your abilities permit to explain stuff 'proper'.

Tiller Man, you just said that Kirby had sued the ILCA "...for implementing a class rule change approved by a democratic vote of our members".

I wasn't aware that was the case. Do you have more details?

(In the extremely unlikely case of Tiller Man has it wrong, perhaps the capacity to understand is limited more by one's ability to explain - and to get facts right.)

 

[Bruce Hudson]

Gantt you are the man.

Thanks so much for the advice to have a "proper" try at explaining why I don't like my class being sued for implementing a class rule change approved by a democratic vote of our members.

I have tried to be "proper" in everything I write on this forum, but perhaps not all have the capacity to understand.

Like that Tillermann guy.

I hear you Tiller Man, that you are trying as hard as your abilities permit to explain stuff 'proper'.

Tiller Man, you just said that Kirby had sued the ILCA "...for implementing a class rule change approved by a democratic vote of our members".

I wasn't aware that was the case. Do you have more details?

(In the extremely unlikely case of Tiller Man has it wrong, perhaps the capacity to understand is limited more by one's ability to explain - and to get facts right.)

Hmmmm... it would seem that Tiller Man has just deleted his original post above.

Maybe Tiller Man had it wrong after all.

Maybe we'll never find out what Tiller Man actually meant because of our capacity to understand is limited.

Maybe some people actually care. (Nah, didn't think so.)

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On another note, the 2016 youth worlds in Oman were cancelled, or rather, relocated to New Zealand (to be sailed Dec 2016).

Does anyone know if Lasers were ordered or built for the Oman youth worlds? If yes, what happened to them? (I don't suppose LP produced boats will still be used - because that would mean LP produced boats being used in PSA's area). Anyone know?

 

[IPLore]

Tiller Man, you just said that Kirby had sued the ILCA "...

I wasn't aware that was the case. Do you have more details?

.)

Sorry....no more details. If there was such a case (and I'm not saying there is), then the participants in the thread discussing such case would prefer that Gantt remain here and continue to work on his conspiracy theories linking the plot to cancel the Oman youth worlds and build Lasers in China with the shooter behind the grassy knoll.

Gantt will get to the bottom of this....and I suggest that everyone else stay out of his way.

 

[tillerman]

I want Gantt to get to the bottom of why New Zealand is refusing permission for Radial Sailor Sarah Winther to go to the Olympics after she met the Olympic standard to attend the Olympic Games, but not 'some other standard' imposed by NZ olympic officials.

Was this decided by a democratic vote?

Did all the bodies involved in this decision publish minutes?

Has anyone deleted any posts about this?

Is Bill Crane somehow involved? After all one of his relatives sailed in the Laser class at the 2012 Olympics so there must be some connection.

Go for it Gantt.

Everyone else please stay out of his way.

W

 

[tillerman]

Tiller Man, you just said that Kirby had sued the ILCA "...

I wasn't aware that was the case. Do you have more details?

.)

Sorry....no more details. If there was such a case (and I'm not saying there is), then the participants in the thread discussing such case would prefer that Gantt remain here and continue to work on his conspiracy theories linking the plot to cancel the Oman youth worlds and build Lasers in China with the shooter behind the grassy knoll.

Gantt will get to the bottom of this....and I suggest that everyone else stay out of his way.

Did Kirby sue the ILCA? Was there ever such a case? If Gantt wasn't aware of the case then I guess I must have dreamed it. Can't we all just forget I ever mentioned it?

Anyway, the Oman Worlds, Chinese Lasers, grassy knoll connection is a much more important topic than the Kirby/Spencer/Gantt conspiracy to take over the world market for Lasers.

Was Ted Cruz's father really involved?

W

 

[BobBill]

All worth it? I mean, it is a Laser and so on!

 

[Wess]

Gantt you are the man.

Thanks so much for the advice to have a "proper" try at explaining why I don't like my class being sued for implementing a class rule change approved by a democratic vote of our members.

I have tried to be "proper" in everything I write on this forum, but perhaps not all have the capacity to understand.

Like that Tillermann guy.

I hear you Tiller Man, that you are trying as hard as your abilities permit to explain stuff 'proper'.

Tiller Man, you just said that Kirby had sued the ILCA "...for implementing a class rule change approved by a democratic vote of our members".

I wasn't aware that was the case. Do you have more details?

(In the extremely unlikely case of Tiller Man has it wrong, perhaps the capacity to understand is limited more by one's ability to explain - and to get facts right.)

Hmmmm... it would seem that Tiller Man has just deleted his original post above.

Maybe Tiller Man had it wrong after all.

Maybe we'll never find out what Tiller Man actually meant because of our capacity to understand is limited.

Maybe some people actually care. (Nah, didn't think so.)

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On another note, the 2016 youth worlds in Oman were cancelled, or rather, relocated to New Zealand (to be sailed Dec 2016).

Does anyone know if Lasers were ordered or built for the Oman youth worlds? If yes, what happened to them? (I don't suppose LP produced boats will still be used - because that would mean LP produced boats being used in PSA's area). Anyone know?

Gantt,

My dear friend, please ignore that Wes chump who keeps posting on my behalf and then deleting those posts. I have complained vehemently to the fine administrators of this establishment and they have reposted the posted, then deleted post. I also apologize profusely for not being more clear and noting for the legal record that an individual's motivation for litigating and actual claims and remedies sought in the actual litigation can be different. Given your frequently and in-depth discussions with the principals of the case I know that you would of course know this but I should have been more clear in my post which became a deleted post but is now a reposted post.

That Wes chump also wanted me to post some video that is reportedly not from the class, not summing up their views, but its not a UK based band so I refuse to post it, to unpost it, to repost its unposting to have it reposted.



Best regards,

TM

PS - 我亲爱的朋友，不要害怕，因为我们将有猪被取消资格韦斯利

 

[BobBill]

+1! I read you right!

 

[Sailabout]

pick up some of those German built Laser knocks off with the altered transom. ( so different but all parts fit)

They retail for 50% of a Laser in the EU

Seen many in rental schools.

 

[Bruce Hudson]

I want Gantt to get to the bottom of why New Zealand is refusing permission for Radial Sailor Sarah Winther to go to the Olympics after she met the Olympic standard to attend the Olympic Games, but not 'some other standard' imposed by NZ olympic officials.

Was this decided by a democratic vote?

Did all the bodies involved in this decision publish minutes?

Has anyone deleted any posts about this?

Is Bill Crane somehow involved? After all one of his relatives sailed in the Laser class at the 2012 Olympics so there must be some connection.

Go for it Gantt.

Everyone else please stay out of his way.

W

The above demonstrates that Tiller Man is reading my personal Facebook account, as the reference about Sarah Winther uses the exact words I have used in a recent post there. Here's the post: https://www.facebook.com/hudsonbruce/posts/10208385740155181?comment_id=10208388134335034&notif_t=feed_comment&notif_id=1464780141564080

I wonder if Tiller Man by posting this is trying to be threatening, or is attempting to be funny. Or knows that he's being creepy.

You know, I used to almost admire the cleverness and humor of Tiller Man, but the following image sums up my latest thinking.

 

[Wess]

I want Gantt to get to the bottom of why New Zealand is refusing permission for Radial Sailor Sarah Winther to go to the Olympics after she met the Olympic standard to attend the Olympic Games, but not 'some other standard' imposed by NZ olympic officials.

Was this decided by a democratic vote?

Did all the bodies involved in this decision publish minutes?

Has anyone deleted any posts about this?

Is Bill Crane somehow involved? After all one of his relatives sailed in the Laser class at the 2012 Olympics so there must be some connection.

Go for it Gantt.

Everyone else please stay out of his way.

W

The above demonstrates that Tiller Man is reading my personal Facebook account, as the reference about Sarah Winther uses the exact words I have used in a recent post there. Here's the post: https://www.facebook.com/hudsonbruce/posts/10208385740155181?comment_id=10208388134335034&notif_t=feed_comment&notif_id=1464780141564080

I wonder if Tiller Man by posting this is trying to be threatening, or is attempting to be funny. Or knows that he's being creepy.

You know, I used to almost admire the cleverness and humor of Tiller Man, but the following image sums up my latest thinking.

Not that I am too scared to click that link but Gantt might you be so kind as to explain it all here? Because for sure there is no SA thread on the topic and somebody is mixed up.



Thank you. W

 

[tillerman]

I want Gantt to get to the bottom of why New Zealand is refusing permission for Radial Sailor Sarah Winther to go to the Olympics after she met the Olympic standard to attend the Olympic Games, but not 'some other standard' imposed by NZ olympic officials.

Was this decided by a democratic vote?

Did all the bodies involved in this decision publish minutes?

Has anyone deleted any posts about this?

Is Bill Crane somehow involved? After all one of his relatives sailed in the Laser class at the 2012 Olympics so there must be some connection.

Go for it Gantt.

Everyone else please stay out of his way.

W

The above demonstrates that Tiller Man is reading my personal Facebook account, as the reference about Sarah Winther uses the exact words I have used in a recent post there. Here's the post: https://www.facebook.com/hudsonbruce/posts/10208385740155181?comment_id=10208388134335034&notif_t=feed_comment&notif_id=1464780141564080

I wonder if Tiller Man by posting this is trying to be threatening, or is attempting to be funny. Or knows that he's being creepy.

You know, I used to almost admire the cleverness and humor of Tiller Man, but the following image sums up my latest thinking.

Gantt - not trying to be threatening or creepy. We are Facebook friends after all. So your FB posts show up in my newsfeed.

Just giving you an opening to make the case here for another sailing issue on which you obviously feel passionately.

I am fascinated by the strategies and techniques you have used to make the case on the Kirby lawsuit issue and am wondering if you would deploy similar methods in support of Sarah Winther.

Love you man!

 

[Wess]

Tiller Man is reading my personal Facebook account.

We are Facebook friends after all.

Wait, what... we are? Geeze, this is awkward. I was 99er% sure that could not be. G