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Prison inmates are picking fruits and vegetables at a rate not seen since Jim Crow.

Convict leasing for agriculture – a system that allows states to sell prison labor to private farms – became infamous in the late 1800s for the brutal conditions it imposed on captive, mostly black workers.

Federal and state laws prohibited convict leasing for most of the 20th century, but the once-notorious practice is making a comeback.
https://theconversation.com/convicts-are-returning-to-farming-anti-immigrant-policies-are-the-reason-117152

 

Meat Wad

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If you are in prison for life, you have proven you cannot function in society. A needle full of heroin and you have a nice calm death....good bye. I have no problem with prisoners working in the fields as long as the $$ goes to compensate the state for their incarceration of the victims of their crime.
But it should not replace the unskilled migrant farm worker that seem to be streaming across our southern border.

 

SloopJonB

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If you are in prison for life, you have proven you cannot function in society. A needle full of heroin and you have a nice calm death....good bye. I have no problem with prisoners working in the fields as long as the $$ goes to compensate the state for their incarceration of the victims of their crime.
But it should not replace the unskilled migrant farm worker that seem  are said to be streaming across our southern border.
FIFY

 

Laker

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There was a lot of work on the effect to the economy of the US by prison labour during the 30's. All of it negative.  Main issue had to do with the "double dip" of guaranteed support of the prisoners and the pricing of their labour.  It also brought about a lot of  opportunities for bribery and kickbacks.  However, that was then.  It would be interesting to analyse the effect at the present.

 

Meat Wad

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If you are in prison for life, you have proven you cannot function in society. A needle full of heroin and you have a nice calm death....good bye. I have no problem with prisoners working in the fields as long as the $$ goes to compensate the state for their incarceration of the victims of their crime.
But it should not replace the unskilled migrant farm worker that ARE streaming across our southern border.

I live in So Cal  you lice in Canada. They ARE streaming across the border.

 

Mrleft8

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There was a lot of work on the effect to the economy of the US by prison labour during the 30's. All of it negative.  Main issue had to do with the "double dip" of guaranteed support of the prisoners and the pricing of their labour.  It also brought about a lot of  opportunities for bribery and kickbacks.  However, that was then.  It would be interesting to analyse the effect at the present.
Bribery, and kickbacks?..... In the era of TRUMP?! Never happen! :rolleyes:

 

Pertinacious Tom

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Kids for Cash

For almost seven years, two Pennsylvania judges sent hundreds of children—some of them as young as 8 years old—to privately run juvenile detention centers in exchange for financial kickbacks. On Tuesday, Judge Christopher Conner ordered former Judges Mark A. Ciavarella and Michael T. Conahan to pay over $200 million in compensatory and punitive damages to their victims.

Starting in 2000, the pair sent children into juvenile detention for offenses as innocuous as jaywalking, petty theft, or truancy. In what became known as the "kids for cash" scandal, the children were sent to two privately run detention centers whose builder and co-owner paid the men $2.8 million, according to the Associated Press, over the course of the scheme.

According to testimony from plaintiffs during the class-action suit, many of the sentences the children received were staggering.
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Privatizing state punishment is going to lead to this kind of thing. The profit incentive works and that's a problem where it doesn't belong.
 

Fat Point Jack

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In the 30's and 40's, my wife's great uncle used to lease them from the State of Florida to collect pine sap for making turpentine in what is now Port Charlotte.
 
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