Life after a 45er

[Malaya]

Well, it appears that my lovely 45er will have found a new custodian. So, what’s next? Here are my thoughts; 18-22 feet, trailer ramp launchable, small cabin with 2 bunks, porta potty, ice chest, single burner (jet boil), light weight rig (possibly carbon) that is easy/fast to set up, ability to power with electric out board.

My first boat was a Jean-Jacques Herbulot designed Corsair. This boat was designed in 1954, but to my eye still looks fresh. Now I realize boat design has advanced more than a little over the last 67 years but this design offers many of the features I am seeking. Ok the rudder could be more balanced even designed as a kick up or even in a cassette. The swing keel could be a lifting keel. On the plus side external ballast, mine had foam blocks under the settees. Now of course it is unlikely there are any on the used market and even if there was, we are talking about a 60+ year old plywood-glass boat.

What would be a contemporary boat in this style? Open to SA thoughts.

SailboatData.com - CORSAIRE Sailboat

 

[DougH]

S2 7.9 checks all of your boxes except it is 26' and the mast is heavy (thick aluminum extrusion). I have seen someone mount an electric winch on the tongue of the trailer to ease the raising of the mast. It has a private head (curtain for a door) and 5 gallon fresh water tank that feeds the sink in the mini-galley. The built-in ice box in the galley is best used for dry food storage because the insulation is terrible. Lots of good used examples on the market. It might be more boat than you want.

 

[Malaya]

Nope, much more boat then I'm after. Think smaller and simplerer.

 

[BGeff]

Weta!

 

[BGeff]

Weta!

Nvermnd!

 

[Santanasailor]

Precision 21, few examples I’ve seen are pricy but from all accounts, a well made craft

 

[DougH]

18-22 feet, trailer ramp launchable, small cabin with 2 bunks, porta potty, ice chest, single burner (jet boil), light weight rig (possibly carbon) that is easy/fast to set up, ability to power with electric out board.

It might help if you also described your intended use. Overnighter? 1-2 week coastal cruiser? 2 berths for sleeping? Able to handle x? ft waves and y? mph wind.

What maximum/minimum displacement? Beach-able?

What maximum draft for "easy trailer launching"?

Porta potty, ice chest, single burner (jet boil), and electric out board are simple to add to any boat. As is shore power.

Did you also want a sink with hand pump fresh water?

 

[Steam Flyer]

Nope, much more boat then I'm after. Think smaller and simplerer.

LiteboatXP 20

About as simple as it gets, for a boat with an "inside" you can get into. Another similar option with a bit of a traditional air, the Dovekie.

If you want to squeeze the most possible boat into the shortest length, the CLC Scamp or the older SanFran Bay Pelican

FB- Doug

 

[Malaya]

Doug,

Intended use would not include 1-2 week outings, As to conditions under which it would be operated in, I currently sail out of Ventura and it would be nice/fun to be able to sail out of these ports. Local conditions can vary through out the year so the ability to handle some weather would be welcome, but I have no plans for heavyer weather. The idea is, the ability to take the vessel to various locations PNW, Gulf of California, inland lakes. Thus the ramp launch ability. Perhaps a very occasional over night trip. Small and on the light side allows a smaller tow vehicle as well. Often combining camping with sailing.

 

[Raz'r]

Ultimate 20 is a nice little boat.

 

[DougH]

West Wight Potter 19 at 1225 pounds might work.

 

[jdazey]

Tremolino

 

[floater]

when it comes to modern yacht design, the French certainly seem to be winning. This is something of a step up from a Catalina 22. 

2014 Maree Haute Django 6.70 Cruiser/Racer for sale - YachtWorld

 

[Malaya]

Floater,

Nice boat, but a bit more complex than my needs. Keep the information flow coming!

 

[12 metre]

SR-21 https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/sr-21

C&C built.  Lifting keel.  Not easy to find.  But probably easier to find in North America than a European boat.

Swept back rig, so runners probably not required and sail plan doesn't show any. Can't get much easier than that.

 

[Malaya]

Thanks 12 I'll add this to my list

 

[MauiPunter]

Get a SJ24

 

[Latadjust]

C-22? Cheap and you can race one design if you choose. Parts and community support readily available. 

 

[Laurent]

In the same vein than the original post (retro small French cruiser in plywood), you may consider to go one size up and look at another design of the same architecte, the Mousquetaire, from Jean-Jacques Herbulot.

https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/mousquetaire

Or, (even better IMHO), look at his "Nemesis" at the time, designs by Philippe Harlé. Specifically the Muscadet. My first boat... Very seaworthy, despite the compact size. Some participated in the first Mini-Transat.

https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/muscadet

Both classes (Mousquetaire and Muscadet) are still sailed actively in France and have a dynamic club of owners; especially in Britanny. But I doubt you will easily find one in the US...

Philippe Harlé developed a whole range of cruisers (most of them made out of plywood), all named after French wines, or stronger alcohols for the bigger ones... What's not to like?!!

Aquavit

Aquila

Armagnac

Beaujolais

Cabernet

Cervoise

Chablis

Champagne

Cognac

Daîquiri

Gros plant

Juliénas

Jurançon

Jéroboam

Muscadet

Passoa

Romanée

Sancerre

Sangria

Sauvignon

Schnaps

Scotch

Tequila

Tokay

Vodka