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Ishmael

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There certainly is a lot more anti-trans shit floating around in here these days.
Thanks for adding to the current atmosphere of hate.
 

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There doesn't seem to be a concentrated effort to demonize bicycle guys or gigolos that I know of.
I’m not sure the objections are to transsexuals in general as much as biological men competing against women in athletics. The college swimmer who never won a thing competing as a male and was a national champion competing against biological women is a perfect example.
 
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Ishmael

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I’m not sure the objections are to transsexuals in general as much as biological men competing against women in athletics. The college swimmer who never won a thing competing as a male and was a national champion competing against biological women.
I know that is the story, but there is suddenly quite a bit of other weird stuff that isn't funny. It's almost as if there's a national campaign against trans.
 

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I know that is the story, but there is suddenly quite a bit of other weird stuff that isn't funny. It's almost as if there's a national campaign against trans.
Well…..I’ll not defend everyone since there are any number of folks who have any variety of views. Most of the angst I read seems pointed at those issues. I acknowledge your point though.
 

Fah Kiew Tu

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I’m not sure the objections are to transsexuals in general as much as biological men competing against women in athletics.

This. Don't care what people do with their genitalia/other bits. Totally up to them.

But XY people have an undoubted strength/endurance advantage over XX people and denying that or pretending it doesn't matter in sport is just bullshit.

FKT
 

Chris in Santa Cruz CA

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This. Don't care what people do with their genitalia/other bits. Totally up to them.

But XY people have an undoubted strength/endurance advantage over XX people and denying that or pretending it doesn't matter in sport is just bullshit.

FKT
I believe I am pretty fair and balanced with this stuff but I do have a natural gut line on this point. I initially thought that testing hormone levels over time might make this work but bone and muscle mass as well as size are just a bridge too far outside of 10 and under sports in my mind. Social and work place equality no problem. Bathrooms with closed door stalls? Who cares. Marriage? As long as theyre both hot! Totally kidding kind of.
 

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This. Don't care what people do with their genitalia/other bits. Totally up to them.

But XY people have an undoubted strength/endurance advantage over XX people and denying that or pretending it doesn't matter in sport is just bullshit.

FKT
Meh. I can’t be outraged by this.
 

Raz'r

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I believe I am pretty fair and balanced with this stuff but I do have a natural gut line on this point. I initially thought that testing hormone levels over time might make this work but bone and muscle mass as well as size are just a bridge too far outside of 10 and under sports in my mind. Social and work place equality no problem. Bathrooms with closed door stalls? Who cares. Marriage? As long as theyre both hot! Totally kidding kind of.
Even gay folks should know the joy of divorce.
 

Grande Mastere Dreade

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I know that is the story, but there is suddenly quite a bit of other weird stuff that isn't funny. It's almost as if there's a national campaign against trans.
not against trans, but against turning kids into trans ... there seems to be a national campaign to indoctronate kids ... leave the kids alone and nobody would worry about it...
 
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Fah Kiew Tu

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Meh. I can’t be outraged by this.

Nor am I. More like WGAF since I don't play organised sport.

However that doesn't alter the facts of the case. What your attitude shows is, you don't give a fuck if XX persons are disadvantaged while competing against XY persons who claim to be female.

Let's just abolish separate categories and have a single competition for all comers. That'd be the fairest thing to do.

FKT
 
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