looks like LR2 has arrived
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UR82029/history/20201004/2200Z/WARR/NZAA
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/UR82029/history/20201004/2200Z/WARR/NZAA
Luna Rossa Challenge. AC 36
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The Viaduct’s about to get fucking exciting!
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17mika
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In an interview today with Gazzetta dello sport, max confirmed the current target date for boat 2 launch is october 20th.
Another veeeeeery interesting answer was about the speed. He was much more explicit than what I thought it would. He said that he saw the kiwi in the last outings and did not come back crying (i.e. speed not very different from them) and he said about the other teams "I am happy where we are, angles are hard to compare precisely, but I think i can see when a boat is much faster or slower. Than we will have answers when we cross at the start line".
I think he intended that Other 2 boats are slower
Interview in italian
Another veeeeeery interesting answer was about the speed. He was much more explicit than what I thought it would. He said that he saw the kiwi in the last outings and did not come back crying (i.e. speed not very different from them) and he said about the other teams "I am happy where we are, angles are hard to compare precisely, but I think i can see when a boat is much faster or slower. Than we will have answers when we cross at the start line".
I think he intended that Other 2 boats are slower
Interview in italian
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Thanks. Really, too bad it’s in Italian. PB spoke mostly, laid out a very clear vision.
Tidbits:
- max speed so far, slightly less than 49 kts
- due to quarantine, this time around the new boat won’t be christened by Miuccia Prada, but by Max’s wife
- most mportantly, I believe the boat in Max’s background is B2. If that is correct, it shows a more marked chine
Tidbits:
- max speed so far, slightly less than 49 kts
- due to quarantine, this time around the new boat won’t be christened by Miuccia Prada, but by Max’s wife
- most mportantly, I believe the boat in Max’s background is B2. If that is correct, it shows a more marked chine
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Looks like MS is quite far aft next to B2. If so, what is that black thing suspended in the air? The deck under the mainsail hanging for internal work to happen underneath?
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I wish I could see (and speak Italian!)
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Kiwing
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Thank you @Priscilla now I can see.
Is that the front he is sitting by? I am guessing the front.
Yes and slightly sharper chines.
Is that the front he is sitting by? I am guessing the front.
Yes and slightly sharper chines.
The_Alchemist
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You can see part of the curvature of the "bustle" on the lower left part of the picture (I lighten the blacks).
Hi fellow Anarchists !
Here's another interview by sailor / journalist Bacci del Buono with Francesco "Checco" Bruni, helmsman of Luna Rossa. I'll only report what they say. Enjoy !
https://www.milanoyachtingweek.com/events/francesco-bruni-intervista/
- He's been raised in a family with strong sailing tradition. He's father sailed against Mauro Pelaschier, and now he's sailing on the dinghy. He jokes that he won against him almost all the time. Checco run with his brother Marco and others a sail making enterprise in Palermo, Veleria Doyle Sails Italia which is doing very well specially in the Maxi Circuit. He has another brother Gabriele, who's doing very well in the Olympics. Checco's son is a windsurfer, and asked how he fares on windsurf, Checco jokes that he returned ashore quite all the time.
- Asked about how he started sailing the moths he says that he started a couple of years after SF Cup, because Chris Draper (that was LR helmsman during that Cup) sailed on it. He says that it'a real funny but also very "sensible" boat.
- Moths are the "school boat" for foiling. Sailing them helped him with the catamarans but specially with the AC75. There are obviously differences between moths and AC75, but the "basic rules" are the same, so what he learn with one of them is useful on the other one. He adds that - with the exception of Ben Ainslie - every helmsman and every mainsail trimmer of this Cup started sailing moths (Jimmy Spithill included). He make some other example: Goodison (Am trimmer), Barker, and Burling and Tuke, that are moth champions, and Glen Ashby.
- Bruni really likes AC75. He thinks that it's a radical boat, state of the art in foiling. The design is incredibly advanced, aerodynamics is vital. He says that it was a leap of faith, because it was a completely new design, based only on computer models. Performances and maneuverability are outstanding, so he can guarantee that AC75 are great boats, he can't guarantee that we'll see great regattas. He adds that to have a great race you need boats with similar performances, with a lot of overtakings. If a boat wins with 4 minutes lead, it's a victory of the entire team, of the sailing team and design team, but the viewers could miss some of the show.
- First day on the AC75 he thought that it was a giant moth. As he said before, some dynamics are of course different, ma the basic rules were the same. He adds that you have to repsect this kind of boat, because when you are sailing at 40/50 knots you have to stay focused on what you are doing.
- Answering the question about why LR signed two "superstars" helmsmen, he start answering that JS has a better curriculum then himself, he won a lot and he's a great partner to share this Cup with. He keeps learning from him, and he jokes that he hope that Jimmy also is learning from him. From the start they saw that it was possible to keep them both at the helm, switching the helmsman / foil controller role. So when JS is at the helm, Bruni is controlling the foils, and vice versa. Since now, this is the best configuration. They have other configurations, but the double helm/double foil controller one is the best right now. JS is the starboard helmsman, Bruni the port helmsman. He adds that however it's not sure that they will adopt this configuration in the first regatta, things could change.
- Asked about the role of the tactitian, he says that all the teams are in the same situation. 8/11 of the people onboard have to produce energy, or the sails/foil arms ain't moving. They have to decide who will make the calls, probably the mainsail trimmer and some of the windward crew (2/3 at the most). He adds the nobody will have a tactitian doing only tactics onboard. It's possible that someone will have a grinder making the tactics. Some teams will have the helmsman doing also the tactitian, he jokes that if you can do it on Lasers, you can do it on AC75 too.
- Some of LR B2 improvements will be visible, others more hidden.
- Asked about LR competitors, he thinks that AM will have a B2 really differnt from B1. Defiant is a strange boat, he thinks that American Magic decided to have B1 as soon as possible, so they could sail more - and he adds that they sailed more than everyone else, specially in the first period - but doing this they had less time for the designing of B1. He thinks that also Ineos B2 will be very different from B1, while he doesn't know what ETNZ will do with B2.
Here's another interview by sailor / journalist Bacci del Buono with Francesco "Checco" Bruni, helmsman of Luna Rossa. I'll only report what they say. Enjoy !
https://www.milanoyachtingweek.com/events/francesco-bruni-intervista/
- He's been raised in a family with strong sailing tradition. He's father sailed against Mauro Pelaschier, and now he's sailing on the dinghy. He jokes that he won against him almost all the time. Checco run with his brother Marco and others a sail making enterprise in Palermo, Veleria Doyle Sails Italia which is doing very well specially in the Maxi Circuit. He has another brother Gabriele, who's doing very well in the Olympics. Checco's son is a windsurfer, and asked how he fares on windsurf, Checco jokes that he returned ashore quite all the time.
- Asked about how he started sailing the moths he says that he started a couple of years after SF Cup, because Chris Draper (that was LR helmsman during that Cup) sailed on it. He says that it'a real funny but also very "sensible" boat.
- Moths are the "school boat" for foiling. Sailing them helped him with the catamarans but specially with the AC75. There are obviously differences between moths and AC75, but the "basic rules" are the same, so what he learn with one of them is useful on the other one. He adds that - with the exception of Ben Ainslie - every helmsman and every mainsail trimmer of this Cup started sailing moths (Jimmy Spithill included). He make some other example: Goodison (Am trimmer), Barker, and Burling and Tuke, that are moth champions, and Glen Ashby.
- Bruni really likes AC75. He thinks that it's a radical boat, state of the art in foiling. The design is incredibly advanced, aerodynamics is vital. He says that it was a leap of faith, because it was a completely new design, based only on computer models. Performances and maneuverability are outstanding, so he can guarantee that AC75 are great boats, he can't guarantee that we'll see great regattas. He adds that to have a great race you need boats with similar performances, with a lot of overtakings. If a boat wins with 4 minutes lead, it's a victory of the entire team, of the sailing team and design team, but the viewers could miss some of the show.
- First day on the AC75 he thought that it was a giant moth. As he said before, some dynamics are of course different, ma the basic rules were the same. He adds that you have to repsect this kind of boat, because when you are sailing at 40/50 knots you have to stay focused on what you are doing.
- Answering the question about why LR signed two "superstars" helmsmen, he start answering that JS has a better curriculum then himself, he won a lot and he's a great partner to share this Cup with. He keeps learning from him, and he jokes that he hope that Jimmy also is learning from him. From the start they saw that it was possible to keep them both at the helm, switching the helmsman / foil controller role. So when JS is at the helm, Bruni is controlling the foils, and vice versa. Since now, this is the best configuration. They have other configurations, but the double helm/double foil controller one is the best right now. JS is the starboard helmsman, Bruni the port helmsman. He adds that however it's not sure that they will adopt this configuration in the first regatta, things could change.
- Asked about the role of the tactitian, he says that all the teams are in the same situation. 8/11 of the people onboard have to produce energy, or the sails/foil arms ain't moving. They have to decide who will make the calls, probably the mainsail trimmer and some of the windward crew (2/3 at the most). He adds the nobody will have a tactitian doing only tactics onboard. It's possible that someone will have a grinder making the tactics. Some teams will have the helmsman doing also the tactitian, he jokes that if you can do it on Lasers, you can do it on AC75 too.
- Some of LR B2 improvements will be visible, others more hidden.
- Asked about LR competitors, he thinks that AM will have a B2 really differnt from B1. Defiant is a strange boat, he thinks that American Magic decided to have B1 as soon as possible, so they could sail more - and he adds that they sailed more than everyone else, specially in the first period - but doing this they had less time for the designing of B1. He thinks that also Ineos B2 will be very different from B1, while he doesn't know what ETNZ will do with B2.
