Luna Rossa Challenge. AC 36

Rennmaus

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Oops, I got it wrong, didn't take the day into consideration 10:15 NZDT Tuesday is 23:15 Monday CEST, and 22:15 Monday BST. Must of been the beer last night, Sorry
Help! 

You guys are very confusing  :D

Maybe everyone checks for themselves. 

 

The_Alchemist

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It that interview, Sirena clarifies something that seems all too obvious, but will be the key to winning.  

The secret is to always fly!

It also points out that this may end up being a cup with a lot of aggressive sailing.  

The penalty of falling off the foils has never been so great.  

So the incentive/strategy to knock your opponent off their foils will be paramount in winning races.  It doesn't matter how fast you boat is if you are forced to sail your hull on the water.

What is the secret to winning with these new, flying boats, never seen before?

“What counts is speed and who maneuvers better. The start will be upwind, and therefore positioning will be fundamental. Then, being the racing field limited by imaginary boundaries, the skill will be to push the opponent against these lines that must not be crossed and thus force him to maneuver and fall from the foils. There is a difference of about 15 knots in speed between flight and classic attitude in the water. Now, you have to think that the boat rises on the foils when it reaches 19 knots, if you fall it then takes several seconds to regain this speed: if in the meantime the opponent continues to fly, it grinds hundreds of meters and you don't catch it anymore. The secret is to always fly ".

 

pbenett

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Sirena says (in italian) "Oggi non sono impressionato. Non sono tornato a casa choccato, insomma, dopo averle viste" that means: "Today I'm not impressed. I mean, I didn't go home shocked after seeing those (opponents B2s)". That sounds much less arrogant.

 

MaxHugen

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It that interview, Sirena clarifies something that seems all too obvious, but will be the key to winning. 

...Now, you have to think that the boat rises on the foils when it reaches 19 knots...
19 knots to get on the foils???  That sounds a bit high. So on a low wind day of 6 knots, they'd have to get to around 3x wind speed in displacement mode, or they would be ploughing around the entire course!

Maybe a challenge for someone who can calc the take-off speed from a video?

 
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enigmatically2

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There are suggestions they do go 3x speed of wind at low wind speeds, but a take-off speed of 19kts sounded high to me. They may do 3x speed of wind once on the foils, but they are going to struggle to hit 19Kts in displacement mode.

Some confusion or mis-speaking I think

 

Schakel

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My guess is: if they bet on aircushion effect,  a half tube as bottom of some kind, they are more radical in design
It would be the opposite of the hulldesign shown in the previous two launches.
Free beers for everyone if that's the case!

 
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Sirena is either a very cunning smack-talker or he's very naive about the need to be diplomatic and circumspect about criticising their opponents' AC75s without seeing them sailed in anger. Or maybe the nuances of what he meant were lost in translation?
I suspect he was just not impressed with the festivities! Not enough glitz and glamour for an Italian

 

Ex-yachtie

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The Italians are getting ready. 
 

There is a skeg, quite rounded, and a black cradle... Sneaky bastards. 
 

I may have just locked eyes with @mikenz2 as well...

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