jaysper
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Indeed. Despite my opinions on Ben I do hope they have found some speed - a lot actually.
In the pre Xmas races they didn't really look any better than the frogs in Bermuda which sucks for them and us.
Luna Rossa Challenge. AC 36
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In the pre Xmas races they didn't really look any better than the frogs in Bermuda which sucks for them and us.
MaxHugen
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Well spotted! Also, I'm not sure as I haven't checked past pics, but is the skeg longer - nearly to the rudder now? And is that a vent near it's trailing edge?
jaysper
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I think the Italians realised they are likely to be 2nd fastest challengers and have decided to act accordingly.
They brought out the chain saws in 2003 when they finally realized a knuckle bow was a must have feature.
It really uglied up their boat and alas to little effect, which is a shame cos they would have been far better custodians of the cup than Ernie.
JALhazmat
Super Anarchist
The rudder rake is adjustable, in that pic it’s all the way forward , to rake back you need the gap
MaxHugen
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Quite a few touch-downs, wonder if they have issues with the flight controller?
Just a weird thought: what if they targeted B2 for ligh/medium breeze and B1 for stronger wind conditions?
I know, it’s strange. But MS keeps saying that B1 is ready and they could use it, and that it’s hard to target an AC75 for all around wind conditions. Also, I remember they sailed B1 in strong winds in Cagliari.
I know, it’s strange. But MS keeps saying that B1 is ready and they could use it, and that it’s hard to target an AC75 for all around wind conditions. Also, I remember they sailed B1 in strong winds in Cagliari.
buckdouger
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I was surprised in the 360 video about two things:
The helms console looked more advanced than in the Christmas cup on B2
The grinders were way better shielded from the wind.
Would be amazing if they were pulling a huge fake on everyone.
The helms console looked more advanced than in the Christmas cup on B2
The grinders were way better shielded from the wind.
Would be amazing if they were pulling a huge fake on everyone.
jaysper
Super Anarchist
Nah, just can't see it. If they did this, then they would be foregoing all the lessons around hull design they learnt between B1 and B2.
jaysper
Super Anarchist
of course. All the teams are holding shit back until they absolutely have to show it.
The_Alchemist
Super Anarchist
Much smaller mainsail, the logo barely fits.
MaxHugen
Super Anarchist
I just did a measurement - seems like full size... Which is odd, since the jib is tiny, about 45m2. Almost identical size/shape to the handkerchief that AM is seen using at times.
They have a slight bend in the mast, but I can't make out any backstays, maybe just the resolution.
buckdouger
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Well for any other team I would agree, but LR had minimal hull differences, within the realm of modification potential.
Edit: one could even use B2 to make site built tooling to make the change
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jaysper
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But they've already done an emergency skeg-ectomy on boat 2 once at least and the sort is something that would be common to both low wind and high wind boats to provide the end plate.
So unless they've super glued a skeg onto B1 in the interceding period (which i guess is theoretically possible) it seems to me that B2 is a lock.
buckdouger
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I might be misunderstanding you, but Luna Rossa B1 was the first boat with a skeg. They commented that they'd made the skeg on B2 deeper, not much by the looks of it, and added the thin 'blade' which could be replicated on B1.
The foredeck has a larger radius along the sheerline on B2 v B1. Can't think of many other external hull differences, although there are likely unnoticed ones.
It's all a stretch obviously, but the similarity bt B1 and B2 opens the door to a play which would be incredible to pull off, as far as cup deceptions in plain sight go.
