Luna Rossa Challenge. AC 36

[winchfodder]

I see they have the torpedo foils.  Could have delayed the launch after seeing the AM foils!  They can only splash 6 foils and may have realized the NZ type foil was inferior?

Torpedo not a foil. Can't see the point unless to add some lead ballast or as structural support for the foils.

Do the Italian foils have less area than TNZ and AM. Seems to look like it.

As for hull shape if the aim is to sail the majority or all the race flying, then the Italian hull looks like more drag.

Also surprised that they are not using two different foil designs on either side. With the limit on the total number allowed seems a sensible  choice by TNZ

 

[hoom]

*ahem* I'll just leave this here



*hack splutter*

I thought it might be more subtle but didn't pick a sharp ridge like that :blink:

I feel that the idea of the central bulge must have been a concept that was shared one way or the other between TNZ & LR.

Maybe from personnel changes or as part of exploring the shapes possible within proposed rules?

 

[Stingray~]

from https://www.sail-world.com/news/222696/Americas-Cup-Luna-Rossa-launch-first-AC75

The Challenger of Record for the 36th America's Cup, Luna Rossa Prada Pirelli has launched their first AC75 in Cagliari, Sardinia.

The hull is a different design treatment than the first two launched by Emirates Team New Zealand and NYYC American Magic. The bow is reminiscent almost of an IACC yacht, with a very soft treatment, however about a third of the way back a crease starts in the hull which appears, from the video to develop into a bustle coming into a skeg-like structure in the centre of the transom, ending just ahead of the rudder.

(contd)

 

[..............]

This will be a very interesting cycle.

Like the first cycle of the IACC when we saw, "short skiffs" (TNZ), "heavy/long/narrow" (USA) and the "aircraft carrier" (ITA).....  

 

[Horn Rock]

I see they have the torpedo foils.

The work on the Italian bulbs seems much cleaner than that of Defiant's which looked rather rough. May be the Italians have greater skill here? Hard to see any sign of a movable flap on their foils. Are they permitted to rotate the entire wing?

 

[Rennmaus]

What's her name?

 

[Stingray~]

What's her name?

Luna Rossa apparently. 

From a Gtran of https://www.gazzetta.it/vela/02-10-2019/coppa-america-varo-luna-rossa-tronchetti-tecnologia-tutta-italiana-3402972766132.shtml?refresh_ce-cp

Punta Ala, Auckland, Cagliari: Luna Rossa number 8, in the fifth America's Cup of the Prada series goes into the water in the early afternoon of Cagliari in the presence of an impetuous Mistral. 

 

[Rennmaus]

Luna Rossa apparently. 

From a Gtran of https://www.gazzetta.it/vela/02-10-2019/coppa-america-varo-luna-rossa-tronchetti-tecnologia-tutta-italiana-3402972766132.shtml?refresh_ce-cp

Punta Ala, Auckland, Cagliari: Luna Rossa number 8, in the fifth America's Cup of the Prada series goes into the water in the early afternoon of Cagliari in the presence of an impetuous Mistral. 

Ah, o.k., thanks.
LR8. Good for tradition  :wub:

 

[Tropical Madness]

Has to be fast...

 

[Horn Rock]

From a Gtran of https://www.gazzetta.it/vela/02-10-2019/coppa-america-varo-luna-rossa-tronchetti-tecnologia-tutta-italiana-3402972766132.shtml?refresh_ce-cp

we focused more on hydro-dynamism than on aspect of air performance ".

Hydrodynamics - the motion of fluids and the forces acting on solid bodies immersed in fluids.

Does this mean the Italians think the hull will be in the water more than the other teams?

 

[Stingray~]

we focused more on hydro-dynamism than on aspect of air performance ".

Hydrodynamics - the motion of fluids and the forces acting on solid bodies immersed in fluids.

Does this mean the Italians think the hull will be in the water more than the other teams?

Yes, that caught my eye too, interesting.

Another pic 

 

[Stingray~]

 

[17mika]

we focused more on hydro-dynamism than on aspect of air performance ".

Hydrodynamics - the motion of fluids and the forces acting on solid bodies immersed in fluids.

Does this mean the Italians think the hull will be in the water more than the other teams?

The way I read his comment in italian is that it is about minimizing drag at takeoff, but not sure.

 

[Stingray~]

 

[Stingray~]

The way I read his comment in italian is that it is about minimizing drag at takeoff, but not sure.

Thanks, would make sense.

 

[Voiled]

Has to be fast...

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That's more of a Flipper belly than the sharp Luna Rossa crease

 

[Horn Rock]

The way I read his comment in italian is that it is about minimizing drag at takeoff, but not sure.

That would seem logical.

 

[2Newts]

This will be a very interesting cycle.

Like the first cycle of the IACC when we saw, "short skiffs" (TNZ), "heavy/long/narrow" (USA) and the "aircraft carrier" (ITA).....  

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Looks more like the shape of a tuna than a sardine. 

Flipper - Orca - Tuna - TBD*

*(I still like Oil Spill, regardless of shape, for the frackers)

 

[luminary]

Flipper - Orca - Tuna - TBD*

*(I still like Oil Spill, regardless of shape, for the frackers)

Slick?

 

[~HHN92~]

Looks like the bottom of a sport fishing boat...