Maybe Storming The Capitol Wasn't Such A Good Idea

[SloopJonB]

Enrique Tarrio was an FBI informant long before he was a Proud Boy

Nobody has ever explained how a spic greaser became the head of a proud, white organztion

 

[Chris in Santa Cruz CA]

uhhhh

 

[Ishmael]

Enrique Tarrio was an FBI informant long before he was a Proud Boy but get your hand lotion where you can find it.

Kinda weird having the group leader be the informant.

 

[bowman81]

UPDATE

"The F.B.I. had as many as eight informants inside the far-right Proud Boys in the months surrounding the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, recent court papers indicate, raising questions about how much federal investigators were able to learn from them about the violent mob attack both before and after it took place".
FBI Had Informants in Proud Boys, Court Papers Suggest - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Didn't a number (from memory about three) of people within those orgs ring the FBI in the lead up to the Jan 6 but they were never contacted by the FBI? Are these the same "informants" being trotted out here?

 

[Ishmael]

Didn't a number (from memory about three) of people within those orgs ring the FBI in the lead up to the Jan 6 but they were never contacted by the FBI? Are these the same "informants" being trotted out here?

Speaking of the FBI, why the hell is Christopher Wray still in charge after the total fuckup that was Kavanaugh's confirmation investigation?

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Kinda weird having the group leader be the informant.

Not very uncommon. Cooperators are frequently at the 'head' of all kinds of illicit schemes.

 

[Ishmael]

Not very uncommon. Cooperators are frequently at the 'head' of all kinds of illicit schemes.

Isn't that going to taint the evidence, in terms of entrapment, etc?

 

[Dog 2.0]

Didn't a number (from memory about three) of people within those orgs ring the FBI in the lead up to the Jan 6 but they were never contacted by the FBI? Are these the same "informants" being trotted out here?

I don't know anything about that.

 

[SloopJonB]

uhhhh

Jeezuss Chris - I didn't think it required purple font.

 

[Chris in Santa Cruz CA]

Jeezuss Chris - I didn't think it required purple font.

took me by surprise, as soon as I pretended George Carlin was saying it I was good

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Isn't that going to taint the evidence, in terms of entrapment, etc?

entrapment and civil RICO are things you see on a crime drama, not an actual case. Lawyers like to tell civilians that "It's never entrapment" and "It's never RICO" because successful entrapment defenses are about as rare as successful civil RICO actions, which is to say <1% of the time. Trump's lawyer Yabba Dabba Poo just got sanctioned for forgetting the second of the two foregoing assertions.

The fact that an informant invites you to do a crime does not excuse the crime, unless you can prove that you were a choir boy beforehand with no predisposition to committing crime, violence, etc. before being seduced by the informant. proud boys gonna have a hard time doing that.

 

[SloopJonB]

took me by surprise, as soon as I pretended George Carlin was saying it I was good

Now you're just being a flatterer.

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

entrapment and civil RICO are things you see on a crime drama, not an actual case. Lawyers like to tell civilians that "It's never entrapment" and "It's never RICO" because successful entrapment defenses are about as rare as successful civil RICO actions, which is to say <1% of the time. Trump's lawyer Yabba Dabba Poo just got sanctioned for forgetting the second of the two foregoing assertions.

The fact that an informant invites you to do a crime does not excuse the crime, unless you can prove that you were a choir boy beforehand with no predisposition to committing crime, violence, etc. before being seduced by the informant. proud boys gonna have a hard time doing that.

Unless acquittal could result in greater punishment than conviction…something like the comparison between going back to producing and selling Deloreans vs playing Jailhouse Clue every morning against Mr. Cranky with a lead pipe in the Bridal Cell. Which punishment is really more cruel and unusual? That was definitely a one in a zillion case.

 

[Chris in Santa Cruz CA]

Now you're just being a flatterer.

optimism is a healthy trait

 

[Swimsailor]

So, after reading about the sledgehammer video of Russia bludgeoning a "traitor" to death, I don't want to hear a single thing from RWNJ'S about the US treating Jan 6th rioters like a third world country would. These guys are being charged and tried by a jury if their peers, not strapped to some concrete and being beaten to death.

 

[SloopJonB]

As they should be.

 

[Blue Crab]

How about we line them up, turn up Ride of the Valkyries really loud, and jab them with flagpoles, throw fire extinguishers at them, womp 'em with hockey sticks and squeeze 'em in doors while squirting with bear spray?

Too harsh?

 

[Bus Driver]

How about we line them up, turn up Ride of the Valkyries really loud, and jab them with flagpoles, throw fire extinguishers at them, womp 'em with hockey sticks and squeeze 'em in doors while squirting with bear spray?

Too harsh?

The turbo-Christians will likely object to being subjected to "eye for an eye".

 

[Blue Crab]

The turbo-Christians will likely object to being subjected to "eye for an eye".

Yeah, that's for thee not me.

 

[Dog 2.0]

So, after reading about the sledgehammer video of Russia bludgeoning a "traitor" to death, I don't want to hear a single thing from RWNJ'S about the US treating Jan 6th rioters like a third world country would. These guys are being charged and tried by a jury if their peers, not strapped to some concrete and being beaten to death.

That's a low bar.