Maybe Storming The Capitol Wasn't Such A Good Idea

[d'ranger]

So just read about a guy arrested at Reagan airport on Jan8 - Delta flight returned to terminal and he was escorted off, wouldn't stop yelling Trump 2020.

So, cop watches him coming off the plane, Delta books him on a later flight (he learned his lesson?), cop is scrolling through his Instagram and sees that guy coming out of the Capitol yelling, we did it, fuck yeah!.  Same shirt, carrying same Trump flag. YCMTSU.  I would include dumber than a box of rocks but just seems unnecessary.  Rocks don't do stupid shit.

 

[AJ Oliver]

A handful of people, myself included, are interested in the privacy and other civil liberties concerns of facial recognition. It's not a topic of much interest on this forum, but if you're interested I have posted about it a few times in this thread.

Don't everybody rush up an once !! 

 

[Thistle3868]

It is so important to some people to post a viral video, I'm thinking most of these are just made up.  She's probably acting. 

Maybe...but I blew a shot with a hot blond after she asked me "Have you ever wondered why boats float, airplanes fly, the grass is green and the sky is blue".  Apparently "Seriously? I can explain that to you." is not the answer that leads to the intended outcome.

 

[Bus Driver]

Zip tie guy is about to be charged with sedition

https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/zip-tie-guy-might-be-prime-candidate-for-exceedingly-rare-sedition-charge-prosecutors-reveal/

Good.  I hope they do.  And, charge more of them with sedition.

Otherwise, the attempted Insurrection will serve as a training exercise.

 

[another 505 sailor]

Maybe...but I blew a shot with a hot blond after she asked me "Have you ever wondered why boats float, airplanes fly, the grass is green and the sky is blue".  Apparently "Seriously? I can explain that to you." is not the answer that leads to the intended outcome.

Reminds me of the joke about the engineering student and his new bicycle.

 

[Bus Driver]

Reminds me of the joke about the engineering student and his new bicycle.

Do tell....

 

[Thistle3868]

I had to look that one up.

It's possible that I have an engineering degree....but I do look at the other person's shoes.

 

[Bus Driver]

At Least 38 Capitol Police Officers Test Positive For COVID-19 Since Jan. 6 Riots

The count of COVID-19 cases in the wake of the January 6 insurrection continues to grow.

A total of 38 U.S. Capitol Police officers have tested positive as of Friday night, according to a union leader for the force.

Approximately 150 National Guard troops have also tested positive since the attack, CBS News reported on Friday. 

 

[hobie1616]

In the weeks since Adam Newbold, a former member of the Navy SEALs, was identified as part of the enraged crowd that descended on the Capitol on Jan. 6, he has been interviewed by the F.B.I. and has resigned under pressure from jobs as a mentor and as a volunteer wrestling coach. He expects his business to lose major customers over his actions.

But none of it has shaken his belief, against all evidence, that the presidential election was stolen and that people like him were right to rise up.

It is surprising because Mr. Newbold’s background would seem to armor him better than most against the lure of baseless conspiracy theories. In the Navy, he was trained as an expert in sorting information from disinformation, a clandestine commando who spent years working in intelligence paired with the C.I.A., and he once mocked the idea of shadowy antidemocratic plots as “tinfoil hat” thinking.

Even so, like thousands of others who surged to Washington this month to support President Donald J. Trump, Mr. Newbold bought into the fabricated theory that the election was rigged by a shadowy cabal of liberal power brokers who had pushed the nation to the precipice of civil war. No one could persuade him otherwise.

From Navy SEAL to Part of the Angry Mob Outside the Capitol

 

[Grrr...]

Go back to 9gag.  Do the world a favor.  Stay there this time.  You don't even get the irony of that picture.

 

[Grrr...]

In the weeks since Adam Newbold, a former member of the Navy SEALs, was identified as part of the enraged crowd that descended on the Capitol on Jan. 6, he has been in

Oddly enough, the seals and the military also teaches you to respect authority, and rarely (if ever) question it.  So when the commander in chief tells you over and over....

 

[mathystuff]

Oddly enough, the seals and the military also teaches you to respect authority, and rarely (if ever) question it.  So when the commander in chief tells you over and over....

Brainwash people into killing people based on lies (WMDs, etc.) and wonder why they are willing to kill people based on lies.

Genius.

 

[Burning Man]

There is unfortunate blowback for Trump supporters who attended the rally but did not take part in the subsequent riot.

Allentown teacher Jason Moorehead was suspended pending the results of an investigation into his actions at the January 6th rally after he posted on social media pics of his attendance at the rally and then retweeted a comment that minimized the violence at the Capitol because "everyone there was insured."

He is suffering significant outcry and damage to his professional reputation because of the paid suspension. At what point does the school system suppress free speech by suspending an employee based on their sharing their political speech? Because it is a governmental institution, it should show great restraint and caution when publicly disciplining employees on First Amendment issues.

Otherwise, the government is no better than @The Joker or @Dog who routinely label BLM a criminal organization. Our government needs to be held to a much higher standard than these private individuals apply to themselves.

I think it depends on what his role was at the "rally".  If he was one of those who did not cross the barricades, then he should not be suspended or otherwise punished as that is absolutely a free speech issue.  However, if he crossed the barricades and entered the capitol bldg, then that is a criminal offense and could be rightfully terminated.  

 

[Burning Man]

Teachers are teachers 24/7.  Everything a teacher does in their private life is subject to scrutiny.  If you have a domestic dispute with a spouse that turns violent, are found to be consuming illegal substances, or (at least in the district I worked in) having an extra-marital affair, you risk losing your teaching position.  The term is "conduct unbecoming".  And that is the way it should be IMHO.  Too bad we don't hold politicians to the same high standard.

But if the same teacher attended a BLM rally, that's OK right?

 

[Burning Man]

I wouldn't get past the first date with someone that dumb. Wouldn't matter how hot she was, anyone that stupid would be intolerable.

FKT

That's what they make ball gags for....... Just saying.   :lol:

 

[Dog]

There is unfortunate blowback for Trump supporters who attended the rally but did not take part in the subsequent riot.

Allentown teacher Jason Moorehead was suspended pending the results of an investigation into his actions at the January 6th rally after he posted on social media pics of his attendance at the rally and then retweeted a comment that minimized the violence at the Capitol because "everyone there was insured."

He is suffering significant outcry and damage to his professional reputation because of the paid suspension. At what point does the school system suppress free speech by suspending an employee based on their sharing their political speech? Because it is a governmental institution, it should show great restraint and caution when publicly disciplining employees on First Amendment issues.

Otherwise, the government is no better than @The Joker or @Dog who routinely label BLM a criminal organization. Our government needs to be held to a much higher standard than these private individuals apply to themselves.

Just to clarify I have never labeled BLM a criminal organization.

 

[Burning Man]

Oddly enough, the seals and the military also teaches you to respect authority, and rarely (if ever) question it.  So when the commander in chief tells you over and over....

That is not even slightly true.  Perhaps for a Marine Corps rifleman private who is told to charge that hill and take that machine gun.  But the spec ops guys in particular are picked for their ability to think critically and outside of the box and to question nonsense orders.  These guys are put into the most difficult mental challenges both in training and in real combat.   And even the lowest ranking guys are capable of independent thought and decision making when cut off from the chain of command.  

If the article is correct that this guy became so utterly brainwashed, then it's an testament to the power of this sort of fact-less propaganda and we need to be even more afraid of it and take action to counter it.

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

But if the same teacher attended a BLM rally, that's OK right?

Kinda depends on whether the teach broke any laws, does it not? Plenty of folks have been to BLM rallies without breaking any laws, myself included. Ours was to protest the confederate soldier greeting people at the front door of the building where people seek equal justice under the law. The only people who broke the law were the people threatening to kill the lot of us, but their Big Talk went the way of what Granny Hawkins thought. 
 

 

[Bus Driver]

But if the same teacher attended a BLM rally, that's OK right?

Kinda depends on whether the teach broke any laws, does it not? Plenty of folks have been to BLM rallies without breaking any laws, myself included. Ours was to protest the confederate soldier greeting people at the front door of the building where people seek equal justice under the law. The only people who broke the law were the people threatening to kill the lot of us, but their Big Talk went the way of what Granny Hawkins thought. 

This teacher attended BLM rallies, last Summer.  I broke no laws.

Was that okay?

 

[Rain Man]

But if the same teacher attended a BLM rally, that's OK right?

It would be just as ok as attending a Trump rally, provided they didn't engage in violence or attempted insurrection.  In other words, no "conduct unbecoming".  Teachers can express their political views, but they can't engage in untoward behaviour.  As pointed out above, the teacher involved in this will likely be reinstated if the investigation shows he didn't go to the Capitol.

OTOH, there are limits - attending a KKK rally or a rally for a white supremacist organization might be viewed as untoward, but those aren't political views, they are racist views.