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Jisuma/Tam OShanter race

Div 0 - 1 entry IRC, 0 in AMS

Div 1 - 2 entries IRC, 2 in AMS

Div 2 - 5 entries IRC, 4 in AMS

Div 3 - 3 entries IRC, 5 in AMS

So,

Div 0 result in IRC is excluded as minimum numbers not met.

Div 1 result in IRC and AMS is excluded as minimum numbers not met.

Div 3 result in IRC is excluded as minimum numbers not met.

What a total waste of time.

This race needs to be revived by moving the start time to 0600 Saturday morning, and make it a day race.

Starting work at 0700 on a Friday morning finishing at 1730 to get to the boat, set up, start the race at 2000, then sail all night to finish at 0600 maybe more likely 0800. Most peoples lifestyles do not support this kind of scheduling these days.
Late '70s, early '80s there was about 20 overnight races each year - 60 to 100 milers, around the bay. Even did one 350 miler. Very much a navigation exercise back then. These days with GPS, that part of it has gone. Or maybe people are just too soft these days. Used to get over 100 boats doing it back then.

Jisuma/Tam-O-Shanter is about the last overnighter isn't it?
There are a few gullible wives/gf's out there who think there are still 20 overnight races per year :p
Maybe the wives/gf's aren't gullible at all Chris;)

 

SPORTSCAR

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Jisuma/Tam OShanter race

Div 0 - 1 entry IRC, 0 in AMS

Div 1 - 2 entries IRC, 2 in AMS

Div 2 - 5 entries IRC, 4 in AMS

Div 3 - 3 entries IRC, 5 in AMS

So,

Div 0 result in IRC is excluded as minimum numbers not met.

Div 1 result in IRC and AMS is excluded as minimum numbers not met.

Div 3 result in IRC is excluded as minimum numbers not met.

What a total waste of time.

This race needs to be revived by moving the start time to 0600 Saturday morning, and make it a day race.

Starting work at 0700 on a Friday morning finishing at 1730 to get to the boat, set up, start the race at 2000, then sail all night to finish at 0600 maybe more likely 0800. Most peoples lifestyles do not support this kind of scheduling these days.
Late '70s, early '80s there was about 20 overnight races each year - 60 to 100 milers, around the bay. Even did one 350 miler. Very much a navigation exercise back then. These days with GPS, that part of it has gone. Or maybe people are just too soft these days. Used to get over 100 boats doing it back then.

Jisuma/Tam-O-Shanter is about the last overnighter isn't it?
There are a few gullible wives/gf's out there who think there are still 20 overnight races per year :p
Maybe the wives/gf's aren't gullible at all Chris;)
Shhh!

 

Don

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Jisuma/Tam OShanter race

Div 0 - 1 entry IRC, 0 in AMS

Div 1 - 2 entries IRC, 2 in AMS

Div 2 - 5 entries IRC, 4 in AMS

Div 3 - 3 entries IRC, 5 in AMS

So,

Div 0 result in IRC is excluded as minimum numbers not met.

Div 1 result in IRC and AMS is excluded as minimum numbers not met.

Div 3 result in IRC is excluded as minimum numbers not met.

What a total waste of time.

This race needs to be revived by moving the start time to 0600 Saturday morning, and make it a day race.

Starting work at 0700 on a Friday morning finishing at 1730 to get to the boat, set up, start the race at 2000, then sail all night to finish at 0600 maybe more likely 0800. Most peoples lifestyles do not support this kind of scheduling these days.
Late '70s, early '80s there was about 20 overnight races each year - 60 to 100 milers, around the bay. Even did one 350 miler. Very much a navigation exercise back then. These days with GPS, that part of it has gone. Or maybe people are just too soft these days. Used to get over 100 boats doing it back then.

Jisuma/Tam-O-Shanter is about the last overnighter isn't it?
I understand that JS, but late 70's, early 80's is 28 to 34 years ago, boats have changed and lifestyles have changed, and I'm not getting into the argument for whether that's better or worse, that's just the way it is.

I would enter the Jisuma/Tam OShanter IF it was made an early MORNING start on the Saturday. I enjoy longer races if they are "day" races NOT over nighters.

How many other owners out there would do the same??

 
Jisuma/Tam OShanter race

Div 0 - 1 entry IRC, 0 in AMS

Div 1 - 2 entries IRC, 2 in AMS

Div 2 - 5 entries IRC, 4 in AMS

Div 3 - 3 entries IRC, 5 in AMS

So,

Div 0 result in IRC is excluded as minimum numbers not met.

Div 1 result in IRC and AMS is excluded as minimum numbers not met.

Div 3 result in IRC is excluded as minimum numbers not met.

What a total waste of time.

This race needs to be revived by moving the start time to 0600 Saturday morning, and make it a day race.

Starting work at 0700 on a Friday morning finishing at 1730 to get to the boat, set up, start the race at 2000, then sail all night to finish at 0600 maybe more likely 0800. Most peoples lifestyles do not support this kind of scheduling these days.
Late '70s, early '80s there was about 20 overnight races each year - 60 to 100 milers, around the bay. Even did one 350 miler. Very much a navigation exercise back then. These days with GPS, that part of it has gone. Or maybe people are just too soft these days. Used to get over 100 boats doing it back then.

Jisuma/Tam-O-Shanter is about the last overnighter isn't it?
I understand that JS, but late 70's, early 80's is 28 to 34 years ago, boats have changed and lifestyles have changed, and I'm not getting into the argument for whether that's better or worse, that's just the way it is.

I would enter the Jisuma/Tam OShanter IF it was made an early MORNING start on the Saturday. I enjoy longer races if they are "day" races NOT over nighters.

How many other owners out there would do the same??
I probably wouldn't enter if it was night or day. Prefer a destination, of which there aint that many down here.

 

BlueBoy

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Nice work from the guys on Scarlet Runner to win the Adelaide to Port Lincoln this morning and take over 2 hours off the race record. They also won on handicap ahead of SMB3.5 and Calm. They also missed the start by almost 10 minutes when the main came out of the track when hoisting. Not a bad effort at all in pretty wild conditions.

http://www.topyacht.net.au/results/2011/plyc/laplyr/01RGrp4.htm

 
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dbo

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What happened yesterday? In Div 0 Race 1, Veloce wins from the TP52s, and GF doesn't even finish. In Race 2 Veloce wins, Cougar and GF both DNF, and Shogun DNC. Lot's of DNFs in Div 1 also.

If it was blowing 40 knots as pikey suggests, they normally would not have raced.

Only winner is North Sails? I think they cover most of the Div 0 fleet.

 

Chucky

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We sat in the pen at Royals watching the wind speed vary from 25 to 40 knots, saw the div2&3 flags showing their races being canned. We figured that it was not worth the effort to sail down to SYC given the the SYC committee boat would cancel racing for the day given most race committees cancel races with gales force winds forecast, therefore we gave it away and went for a cold beer at the bar. To our surpise they did race it must have been a blast down wind!

We saw Bombora, Chutzpar and Shogun retire from racing with damage, we therefore made the correct decision not to race given we are not in the hunt for a podium finish in the series and we did not have a dacron main to flog in these conditions!

Well down to the 10 or so boats who raced!

 
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For the CMS race, word is that prior to racing the RO consulted the BOM who advised that the Gale warning related to the Sth end of the Bay, and the Nth end was more of a "strong wind warning".

IMHO, its good to have a race held in stronger conditions to test boats and crew work. Squirts through of around 35kn just after the start, but most of the race was in 20-25kn and the seas gave the fleets some awesome downhill rides.

Well done to Exec Decision, JAMH and Wicked in Div 1 who seemed to handle the conditions best. Interesting that, apart from Veloce, the Div 0 boats seemed to go to pieces in these conditions.

Also spare a thought for the race management folks that must have been tossed around like corks in a washing machine given the sea conditions. :eek:

 

SPORTSCAR

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For the CMS race, word is that prior to racing the RO consulted the BOM who advised that the Gale warning related to the Sth end of the Bay, and the Nth end was more of a "strong wind warning".

IMHO, its good to have a race held in stronger conditions to test boats and crew work. Squirts through of around 35kn just after the start, but most of the race was in 20-25kn and the seas gave the fleets some awesome downhill rides.

Well done to Exec Decision, JAMH and Wicked in Div 1 who seemed to handle the conditions best. Interesting that, apart from Veloce, the Div 0 boats seemed to go to pieces in these conditions.

Also spare a thought for the race management folks that must have been tossed around like corks in a washing machine given the sea conditions. :eek:
Following cancellation of Div 2/3 we watched the SYC Committee boat from the comfort of the Members Bar @ SYC on Saturday afternoon and she sure was rolling.We saw Endeavour engulfed in spray on several occasions and that was while at anchor. Mind you, having spent plenty of time aboard her in all sorts of conditions, I can tell you Endeavour would roll on a wet lawn :lol:

We were interested to note the reluctance to reef by most of the Div 1 participants when the breeze was already well into the 30s before the start and quite a bit stronger immediately after their start. Plenty of knockdowns ensued and quite a few early retirements followed.

 

Chucky

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Club Marines Series update.

MEDIA RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE USE

 

Port Phillip gale decimates Club Marine Series fleet

By Mike Sabey

The Forty knot gale that lashed Port Phillip on Saturday decimated the small Club Marine Series fleet brave enough to venture out and also washed a man over board off the fifty footer leading the Division Zero race.

Rob Hanna's TP 52 Shogun (RYCV) which was leading in heat one by almost a mile, was scorching down wind under spinnaker in white knuckle conditions doing 24 knots. With out warning a rouge wave washed their main sheet hand Ben Morrison-Jack out under the safety rails and over the side. See more details at http://www.sail-world.com/Australia/Club-Marine-Series---Port-Phillip-gale-blasts-fleet---photos/80499

 
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SPORTSCAR

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Club Marines Series update.

MEDIA RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE USE

 

Port Phillip gale decimates Club Marine Series fleet

By Mike Sabey

The Forty knot gale that lashed Port Phillip on Saturday decimated the small Club Marine Series fleet brave enough to venture out and also washed a man over board off the fifty footer leading the Division Zero race.

Rob Hanna's TP 52 Shogun (RYCV) which was leading in heat one by almost a mile, was scorching down wind under spinnaker in white knuckle conditions doing 24 knots. With out warning a rouge wave washed their main sheet hand Ben Morrison-Jack out under the safety rails and over the side. See more details at http://www.sail-world.com/Australia/Club-Marine-Series---Port-Phillip-gale-blasts-fleet---photos/80499
Dangerous things, those rouge waves :lol:

I see Mike Sabey still hasn't mastered his spellchecker

 

Go Fuck Yourself

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Alright, alright. Which one of you Mexican's paid for Scooter's BJ to keep this thread from being deleted!? Us Chi-town Seppos have had three,count them, 'three' threads dismissed due to alledged server space requirements. And here you lot are with a thread about a 1/2 tale into two cities. What gives?

Must be a Smooth thing...

;)

 

mexican

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Alright, alright. Which one of you Mexican's paid for Scooter's BJ to keep this thread from being deleted!? Us Chi-town Seppos have had three,count them, 'three' threads dismissed due to alledged server space requirements. And here you lot are with a thread about a 1/2 tale into two cities. What gives?

Must be a Smooth thing...

;)
Was't me.

Mex

 
Club Marines Series update.

MEDIA RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE USE

 

Port Phillip gale decimates Club Marine Series fleet

By Mike Sabey

The Forty knot gale that lashed Port Phillip on Saturday decimated the small Club Marine Series fleet brave enough to venture out and also washed a man over board off the fifty footer leading the Division Zero race.

Rob Hanna's TP 52 Shogun (RYCV) which was leading in heat one by almost a mile, was scorching down wind under spinnaker in white knuckle conditions doing 24 knots. With out warning a rouge wave washed their main sheet hand Ben Morrison-Jack out under the safety rails and over the side. See more details at http://www.sail-worl...---photos/80499

Classic example of media sensationalising.... Amazing that those of us that battled the elements actually survived such a life-threatening ordeal!!??

 
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