Mighty Merloe
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timotheysski
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Yes, agreed, never said they were. Pretty easy to figure out who is faster at what points of sail when sailing side-by-side and doing group training sessions anyways, which they do a lot of.
Mr. Clean, you seem a bit grumpy. What you need is a good night's sleep. So strap on the magic underwear and put that pretty little head right in the middle of your brand new My Pillow. Breathe deeply of that American made quality wrapped in the finest Egyptian cotton. All your dreams will soon come true.
Irrational 14
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It's actually the 4th Mode...
4th Mode
Actually, I relish abuse and couldn't decide on a great troll question so I came up with this: An honest question. I keep reading of this "4th Mode" from thread to thread, and I can only assume it's "flying", or "airborne". What are the origins of the expression? (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) All I...
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Hitchhiker
Hoopy Frood
I feel like I've wandered off course, sort of like Lawson.
SolGato
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Here is probably what will become of the MANGLED MERLOE when it runs up dockage fees in Mexico.
This is the 118' LOA RTW trimaran designed and (nearly) <80% finished in Hawaii. I was asked to try and do some renderings for the bare hulls and beams to make more saleable after the builder died. His widow had hoped to recoup some of the 10 years cash (and sweat!) that had gone down the drain. Jim Antrim had contributed to the design and he must have thought I would take on the rendering (and additional modeling) on a Pro Bono case but that never happened. Sad story really but she did get an absurd offer from some Australian booze cruise operators that did eventually motor it down under where it underwent and incredible transformation.
Before:
After!
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Actually the trip to Brisbane from Hawaii was a record setting foolhardy event! I think the set up a small thatch roof over the steering station and hung a small outboard or two and just toughed it out. I can start on the 3d concept money for Capt Don just as soon as I get a retainer fee from one of his 'foundations'...
Was this vessel moored in Nawiliwili Harbor on Kauai for a number of years?
Thanks for your questions, and I would be glad to give you my opinion.
1. I don't believe that he does, but he is learning the boat more each day, and will the proper support he has a chance of completing the transpac, with luck and good weather.
2.No. A monohull would serve him better.
3. I think I agree 100% with your writing: "
This from two days ago:
"
Update time! This will be a long one as we got a lot of topics to cover: first, yes it is true I have been sick for the last 72hrs from eating Street food the day before we left Mexico! The cramps and pain has been intense but is subsiding daily. I am hoping to be out of bed by Monday!
Next up, we are back in the good old USA!
Feels good. Missed being here for 2 months.
Just smelling the fluoride in the water brings peace to my stomach! The moment we landed, my phone exploded with so many missed calls, messages, birthday wish, happy new years, etc! It was nice to see so many people were wondering about us and sent nice messages our way.
I am sorry to those who took it personal not hearing back to us when we were offshore and overseas for 2 months. Not having power onboard made it even more difficult to communicate let alone not having cell coverage for sometime in Mexico.
But lets dive into the boat repairs, the program and future plans! For the Defiant repairs. Significant progress has been made in the hull repairs which has been one of the top two issues we needed to get squared away. It took about a week to get the damaged accessed to best of our abilities in Acapulco. This isn't Newport, RI or Annapolis, MD, so we had to outsource some of the work and communicate with people from all around until we came up with a solid - temporary- solution on the repairs. The work on the starboard side is about 90% of what we are hoping for and the Port Side that took the brunt of the collision is about 80% of what we hope. We are planning on letting the work stand for a week and then re-evaluate in Mid Feb.
Several MOD and Maxi Trimaran teams have provided great advice, specs, and concepts to help with the work and it has been greatly appreciated! The real work will happen when we finally have a facility on the East Coast that can properly house our boat and has the staff that knows how to repair these types of boats.
Next up, the dreaded engine. From day 1 it has been the cause of most of our issues. We had been warned she needed a complete rebuild. We slowly started the process back in Nov but we have decided to go for the full rebuild in Feb and March. We have a Lombardi 45hp Marine engine onboard that serves as our battery generator as well.
The issue we have currently is our boat was setup for short - quick runs so there is no wind generator, no hydrogenerator and no solar panels.
With only 2 lithium batteries onboard and the amount of electronics on board, we are constantly running the engine which adds to the engine hours.
So during this time period, we are making the move to get a wind turbine installed to help with the charge. Because of the Defiants Apparent wind and speed, our wind turbine will work more efficiently than on slower boats.
Next up will be a hydro generator but it won't be installed probably until the passage through the canal.
After sailing the Defiant over 6,000nm, we have learned a ton about what she can and can't do right now. And that is the purpose of these runs to learn as much as we can and discuss it with people who know.
Next up, the Radar.
The Defiant didn't have a radar installed and there is no way that would have prevented the multiple collisions we have had over the last year but it does provide a great visual of what's going on around you.
Next, the sails. Much talk about the status of the J1 and J2. They actually not as bad as they look furled. The leeches are where the damage is located down seams. They can be and will be pathed up as well. The main top batten was removed as it broke, but that will be replaced when the main comes off for repairs.
Speaking of the mainsail, someone asked how many reef points we have on Defiant, right now just 2. The 3rd isn't fitted in the mast and the main only has 2 built-in. We will fix that as well once we arrive to the East Coast as it makes it very hard to sail the Defiant in heavy Seas and big winds when your choices are 2nd reef or drop the entire sail.
The worklist has more notes but I will stop there and jump to the Dark Seas Project updates now: there have been some misconceptions and false things said about what we do and how we do it.
The DSP isn't a take you sailing - sailing camp program. We haven't and don't take kids out sailing on the ocean.
We visit yacht clubs, schools, centers and they come down to the boat for tours, STEM (former engineer) and other activities where they get to experience a F1 sailing boat that they would never have access to.
In 2022 for example, we did a West Coast Tour and did tons of visits all over California and even flew to the mid west in Ohio, to the East Coast in NYC, Newport, and on and on.
The responses from our work mean a lot and we will continue to bring the sport I love to the people I love. My sailing and passage making is what I do but isn't the only part of my life and goals.
Final thoughts before I head back to the pillow, thank you.
Thank you to everyone for being them and sharing both love and hate towards me, my team, my boat, my program and my partners. We see it and record it as it is part of the legacy of what we are doing.
You never know how people feel about you until they have an opportunity to speak.
I so wish I could show you all the incredible messages I get from Pro Sailors, Olympians, World Champions, Vendee Globe Sailors, and so on who love seeing an American Try to do this work on this level.
It's not easy and I know there will be more ups and downs but ultimately, we will keep pushing forward and try to do the best we can - try to take care of everything we can - try to be a good role model for those who come next - we will keep trying and keep being us and hopefully, that will be enough.
Enjoy the big game!
Captain Donald Lawson"
"
Update time! This will be a long one as we got a lot of topics to cover: first, yes it is true I have been sick for the last 72hrs from eating Street food the day before we left Mexico! The cramps and pain has been intense but is subsiding daily. I am hoping to be out of bed by Monday!
Next up, we are back in the good old USA!
Feels good. Missed being here for 2 months.
Just smelling the fluoride in the water brings peace to my stomach! The moment we landed, my phone exploded with so many missed calls, messages, birthday wish, happy new years, etc! It was nice to see so many people were wondering about us and sent nice messages our way.
I am sorry to those who took it personal not hearing back to us when we were offshore and overseas for 2 months. Not having power onboard made it even more difficult to communicate let alone not having cell coverage for sometime in Mexico.
But lets dive into the boat repairs, the program and future plans! For the Defiant repairs. Significant progress has been made in the hull repairs which has been one of the top two issues we needed to get squared away. It took about a week to get the damaged accessed to best of our abilities in Acapulco. This isn't Newport, RI or Annapolis, MD, so we had to outsource some of the work and communicate with people from all around until we came up with a solid - temporary- solution on the repairs. The work on the starboard side is about 90% of what we are hoping for and the Port Side that took the brunt of the collision is about 80% of what we hope. We are planning on letting the work stand for a week and then re-evaluate in Mid Feb.
Several MOD and Maxi Trimaran teams have provided great advice, specs, and concepts to help with the work and it has been greatly appreciated! The real work will happen when we finally have a facility on the East Coast that can properly house our boat and has the staff that knows how to repair these types of boats.
Next up, the dreaded engine. From day 1 it has been the cause of most of our issues. We had been warned she needed a complete rebuild. We slowly started the process back in Nov but we have decided to go for the full rebuild in Feb and March. We have a Lombardi 45hp Marine engine onboard that serves as our battery generator as well.
The issue we have currently is our boat was setup for short - quick runs so there is no wind generator, no hydrogenerator and no solar panels.
With only 2 lithium batteries onboard and the amount of electronics on board, we are constantly running the engine which adds to the engine hours.
So during this time period, we are making the move to get a wind turbine installed to help with the charge. Because of the Defiants Apparent wind and speed, our wind turbine will work more efficiently than on slower boats.
Next up will be a hydro generator but it won't be installed probably until the passage through the canal.
After sailing the Defiant over 6,000nm, we have learned a ton about what she can and can't do right now. And that is the purpose of these runs to learn as much as we can and discuss it with people who know.
Next up, the Radar.
The Defiant didn't have a radar installed and there is no way that would have prevented the multiple collisions we have had over the last year but it does provide a great visual of what's going on around you.
Next, the sails. Much talk about the status of the J1 and J2. They actually not as bad as they look furled. The leeches are where the damage is located down seams. They can be and will be pathed up as well. The main top batten was removed as it broke, but that will be replaced when the main comes off for repairs.
Speaking of the mainsail, someone asked how many reef points we have on Defiant, right now just 2. The 3rd isn't fitted in the mast and the main only has 2 built-in. We will fix that as well once we arrive to the East Coast as it makes it very hard to sail the Defiant in heavy Seas and big winds when your choices are 2nd reef or drop the entire sail.
The worklist has more notes but I will stop there and jump to the Dark Seas Project updates now: there have been some misconceptions and false things said about what we do and how we do it.
The DSP isn't a take you sailing - sailing camp program. We haven't and don't take kids out sailing on the ocean.
We visit yacht clubs, schools, centers and they come down to the boat for tours, STEM (former engineer) and other activities where they get to experience a F1 sailing boat that they would never have access to.
In 2022 for example, we did a West Coast Tour and did tons of visits all over California and even flew to the mid west in Ohio, to the East Coast in NYC, Newport, and on and on.
The responses from our work mean a lot and we will continue to bring the sport I love to the people I love. My sailing and passage making is what I do but isn't the only part of my life and goals.
Final thoughts before I head back to the pillow, thank you.
Thank you to everyone for being them and sharing both love and hate towards me, my team, my boat, my program and my partners. We see it and record it as it is part of the legacy of what we are doing.
You never know how people feel about you until they have an opportunity to speak.
I so wish I could show you all the incredible messages I get from Pro Sailors, Olympians, World Champions, Vendee Globe Sailors, and so on who love seeing an American Try to do this work on this level.
It's not easy and I know there will be more ups and downs but ultimately, we will keep pushing forward and try to do the best we can - try to take care of everything we can - try to be a good role model for those who come next - we will keep trying and keep being us and hopefully, that will be enough.
Enjoy the big game!
Captain Donald Lawson"
giegs
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That reads like all the attention being given to social media relevancy and self-justification is distracting him from taking steps necessary to achieve his stated goals and clouding his self-assessments. If he has good advice available in his orbit, he'd probably do well to put down the phone. These kind of attitudes kill people.
Autonomous
Turgid Member
There's optimism and there's bullshit.
Giving the benefit of the doubt, I suggest one has morphed into the other.
Giving the benefit of the doubt, I suggest one has morphed into the other.
Crump's Brother
Anarchist
Will there be another Long Beach to Galapagos Isle record attempt?
KB
KB
yes, built there, too. decades
SolGato
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Thanks. Thought it was the same boat and noticed it had gone missing from its lonesome “parking spot” over in the barge dock area.
sailhmb
Member
Good luck with your journey ahead. Keep mitigating and testing. Although the east coast waters could be a bit more challenging at times. Restoration is always more expensive than we thought. man plans, God laughs.
^ this might be one of the dumbest things I've read on this forum.
MR.CLEAN
Moderator
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Threads that attract outside posters from social media have a special place in the history of SA comedy gold. We sometimes forget how much smarter the average sailor is than the average non-sailor (or worse yet, the average non-sailor gullible enough to believe the bullshit of someone like Reid or Rimas or Seeker).
steelmadesteamer
Member
THIS is the best explanation of "must happen" multiple collisions ..!
timotheysski
Member
When I close my eyes, I can't see (I need a radar).
J_Grove
Member
Mr. Clean two weeks ago, to a poster than joined SA in 2014, and has actually met CDL ...
Today, seeming to refer to the same poster ...
I've learned a lot and been entertained by this forum, but it never fails to amaze me how quickly someone here who expresses a different POV can be labeled a moron, a poseur, etc.
All I know is that next time I read someone backing up their claims with "I've sailed a million miles", I'm afraid we're going to have to see the documentation. At least a GPS track.
Today, seeming to refer to the same poster ...
I've learned a lot and been entertained by this forum, but it never fails to amaze me how quickly someone here who expresses a different POV can be labeled a moron, a poseur, etc.
All I know is that next time I read someone backing up their claims with "I've sailed a million miles", I'm afraid we're going to have to see the documentation. At least a GPS track.
