Mighty Merloe

[vokstar]

I still hope this guy will not sail too far away as otherwise he will kill himself or kill also his "first mate" at sea. He himself is real trouble and danger.

I still believe that what we see is just U-tube "movies" to entertain very special auditoria and this "creative experience" will end up the same moment money is over. Will keep my fingers crossed this happens soon.

He doesn't have that many subscribers on youtube anyway (148), so it is a very select audience indeed and only 1.2k followers on insta and 2.5k followers on FB.. I do like that on his FB he has said he is a rising creator and an athlete though...

But yes it is getting to the point someone needs to tap him on the shoulder and sit him down and say you realllllllly sure bout what you are doing, because it feels like he could become a fatality because of his own folly

 

[jmh2002]

Looks like Tritium might have been saved by @multihuler

See here: https://forums.sailinganarchy.com/threads/flying-circus-the-caravan.242142/#post-8331754

 

[mpenman]

Triad's mast builder excels.
For a stayed rig the higher compression load concentrated on a smaller section will demand a thicker wall section which already has decent form stiffness which a relatively small amount of 90 degree hoop filament will further reinforce. At the loads involved any kind of lightweight core is added weight. The core on Triad's spar was in there only to increase the mandrel size to make a larger section appropriate to the loading that platform would generate (righting moment) it will never load up in service and is not structural. Any body want to start a new thread as we get to swamp MM here?

I apologize in advance if you felt my posts were personal attacks. They are not. I'm just here to learn from those way wiser than I.

Personally, I prefer more banter and discussion on the build aspects of the boats we trust to take us sailing. There are some really fine craftsmen and women in the boat building trade who don't make the money they should because the craft is not understood by the buyer, who chooses flash and a lower price point. As a group we should expound on the characteristics of each decision and what that ultimately means. Please don't get me started on the state of stainless steel.

I'm just trying to understand this particular mast..... they added a foam core because they wanted a 'bigger' mast section to handle the loading and to do that they needed to expand the section on the spindle/mandrel using a foam layer?

So the foam adds another 1-2cm of diameter? Does the strength come from increasing the size (circumference) of the section or the thickness of the laminate?

 

[timotheysski]

Looks like Tritium might have been saved by @multihuler

See here: https://forums.sailinganarchy.com/threads/flying-circus-the-caravan.242142/#post-8331754

Anyone willing to provide some background on this guy? As far as I know he just throws monies at multihulls he sees to save them. Where is the money from, what happens to the boats, and why go through all the trouble?

 

[MR.CLEAN]

Anyone willing to provide some background on this guy? As far as I know he just throws monies at multihulls he sees to save them. Where is the money from, what happens to the boats, and why go through all the trouble?

ask him

 

[oldsurfer]

Anyone willing to provide some background on this guy?

Other than he is my good friend, no.

As far as I know he just throws monies at multihulls he sees to save them.

That's a little unflattering.
He is very well networked in the multi world and has an eye for quality and connecting rare boats with proper owners.

Where is the money from,

That's none of your business

what happens to the boats,

They're headed to N Carolina

and why go through all the trouble?

You're somewhat unclear on the concept of a circus?
He loves putting smiles on peoples faces by getting them out on the water playing with boats they could never afford.
I have never met anyone who was more generous and willing to share his passion for multis with others!

 

[SailingTips.Ca]

Anyone willing to provide some background on this guy? As far as I know he just throws monies at multihulls he sees to save them. Where is the money from, what happens to the boats, and why go through all the trouble?

Back when we were shopping for a multihull @multihuler and his wife graciously invited us to stay in their home without ever having met us.

I found them both to be incredibly kind and generous.

I do believe his desire (obsession?) to save multihulls, share them, and put smiles on people’s faces is genuine, and he finds creative means to do so.

I do not believe he is primarily motivated by commercial interests (i.e. making as much money as possible) and in that sense if more people were like him the world would be a better place.

Then again I’m just a commie up in Canada…

 

[jmh2002]

Here's another trimaran thread too:


Big Lizard in My Backyard - Large Multihulls in San Pedro

Big Lizard in My Backyard - Large Multihulls in San Pedro

MOD 70’s Argo and Orion are docked in San Pedro after their San Francisco to San Diego match race. Maserati should be coming to town soon. It sounds like they’re having a little issue with their visas. They’re hanging out in Ensenada until they get cleared!

forums.sailinganarchy.com

MOD 70’s Argo and Orion are docked in San Pedro after their San Francisco to San Diego match race. Maserati should be coming to town soon...

 

[boardhead]

After showing my 40' tri to a revolving door of prospects who mostly became increasingly intimidated at the prospect of sailing her let alone maintaining her - multihuler was the one with the balls to spend way more than his normal budget (still a steal!) and take her south out of New Jersey in sleet, in December and sail her down to the Bahamas turn key, out of the box!!
The guy is for real - obsessed with multihulls, something that I appreciate.

 

[eric1207]

I'll vouch for Multihuller. Don't know him well but he's always been helpful and free with his time (and boats) when I've talked to him by phone and in person.

 

[unShirley]

I'll vouch for Multihuller. Don't know him well but he's always been helpful and free with his time (and boats) when I've talked to him by phone and in person.

same here

 

[Keith]

I met him for the 1st time, at the start to the Victoria and north leg of the R2AK, when he was racing nice pair, he had plenty of time to chat about Crowther cats, multihulls, and show me around nice pair, even though he was leaving in few hours.
Class act, good people and a real sailor.

 

[jmh2002]

More on Tritium, @multihuler has a new thread looking for delivery crew from San Diego to Richmond, CA.

(I keep posting these new topics here for visibility as I think most people are subscribed to this Mighty Merloe thread)


So, you always wanted to sail a Orma 60? Is this your lucky day, or what ?

"The Game " relocation of a Orma 60

So, you always wanted to sail a Orma 60? Is this your lucky day, or what ? Currently in San Diego, her new, and only available slip on the west coast is in Richmond CA. Time frame starts when I post this wet dream. Bring your best gear, and a good story of why you want to be cramped...

forums.sailinganarchy.com

 

[eliboat]

I apologize in advance if you felt my posts were personal attacks. They are not. I'm just here to learn from those way wiser than I.

Personally, I prefer more banter and discussion on the build aspects of the boats we trust to take us sailing. There are some really fine craftsmen and women in the boat building trade who don't make the money they should because the craft is not understood by the buyer, who chooses flash and a lower price point. As a group we should expound on the characteristics of each decision and what that ultimately means. Please don't get me started on the state of stainless steel.

I'm just trying to understand this particular mast..... they added a foam core because they wanted a 'bigger' mast section to handle the loading and to do that they needed to expand the section on the spindle/mandrel using a foam layer?

So the foam adds another 1-2cm of diameter? Does the strength come from increasing the size (circumference) of the section or the thickness of the laminate?

Offsetting the original mandrel surface increases the section modulus and moment of inertia of the section. This relates to the stiffness of the spar and it’s ability to handle bending loads. The thickness of the laminate itself also contributes, but is more directly responsible for the strength of the spar which needs to be sufficient to handle the calculated compression loads (massive in multihulls).

It’s likely that Ted used Nomex for this purpose for two reasons. One to save weight, as the core material was just along for the ride, nomex is the lightest option. Two, nomex has favorable compressive strength relative to something like pvc, though iirc he wasn’t jacking the autoclave pressure up beyond 60psi generally, which is ok for pvc. One of the tougher practical problems a composite spar builder, in particular a small one like Composite Engineering has is the availability of mandrels. For the most part these are aluminum sections that have been modified so that they can be vacuum bagged without leaking air. It’s actually not easy getting a tapered aluminum spar these days, and so one is limited by the sections that have access to.

To back up boardman’s assertions about the durability of these spars, the process for these used unidirectional tows being woven over the mandrel and the whole lot getting resin infused. This makes for an extremely tough spar. Not the lightest or the prettiest, but they are exceptionally tough.

 

[mpenman]

@eliboat and @boardhead, much appreciate the intel from you both. @boardhead reached out to me as well and understanding why they did things the way that they did.
You guys are awesome.

 

[Ravenswing]

Anyone willing to provide some background on this guy? As far as I know he just throws monies at multihulls he sees to save them. Where is the money from, what happens to the boats, and why go through all the trouble?

Others have vouched for multihuler here, and I always finish his phone calls happier and itching to go fly a hull. But you also asked ‘why the trouble?’ Because if the boats don’t get saved, they get destroyed. Look at the big one he’s working now; Tritium was an important boat in the lead up to fully foiling 2013 Americas Cup, and a decade later it’s still capable of thrilling ocean racing. Perhaps the Grand Prix pros are through with it, but now it’s reachable by ordinary middle aged sailing folk like me. Parking my modest Farrier for a coastal or ocean trip on this beast - wow. Tritium was very close to a salvager’s parting out last week, and I think that would have been a hell of a shame, chopping up a modern, properly equipped & built high performance tri that would cost well over a million to build again. As a boating society we don’t have “trickle down” figured out yet, and big race boats end up in peril. Multihuler does it because these boats SHOULD be saved. And sometimes it makes financial sense too . The international multihull community is lucky to have his circus antics. He’s moved more good boats around the world for 2nd & 3rd lives than perhaps the rest of us readers here combined.
Yeah, I raised my hand for his delivery trip. Hope it comes to fruition!

 

[massnspace]

I met the multihull guy at the boat ramp in Everett, WA before the Race2Alaska a few years back. He was rude to me and a friend, and could not stop talking about himself and his boats…..I was designing and building a cat at that time and tried to tell him, but he went right back to his boats; kept telling me how many “linear feet” of hulls he owned.

These old boats don’t “need” to be saved. There is a very very very very small percentage of the population that is interested in them. Nobody is going to drive out to the coast in the middle of nowhere to see them.….

 

[MR.CLEAN]

He was rude to me and a friend, and could not stop talking about himself and his boats…

evidence that you can't please all the people all the time

 

[Lost in Translation]

I had never thought about lineal feet of sailboats. I guess I have 72 feet and mulithuller must be in the thousands? Pretty amazing to see what he is amassing and I hope to get over there and see it sometime.

Boat ramp is probably the worst place to meet anyone given the pressure that can arise there. Would not hold that against anyone long term.

 

[Russell Brown]

Boat ramp is probably the worst place to meet anyone given the pressure that can arise there. Would not hold that against anyone long term.

I'm pretty sure I was rude to a few people at the boat ramp, but jesus, why start asking questions when someone is trying to put their mast up?