MORC Chainsaw Special

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sailon

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Looks heavy.  I had a 7.9. which was a great boat, but it would not break its speed limit of 8 knots.  Also see a serious transom crack just to the left of the rudder.

 
Meat Wad

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Chris in Santa Cruz said:
its got a heck of a rudder on it and maybe an elliptical keel?
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Very Fast Sailboat.

For sale is a highly modified S2 race boat. Think of this as a boat that will just Go Fast. Hull and deck are sound. Below deck could use a coat of paint. The boat comes on a tandem axle trailer and includes sails, rigging, radio, anchor, four Lewmar winches and misc equipment. In a world full of used boats it would be hard to find a faster one for the money.

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It does not look that bad if you zoom in but it looks to have been sitting as the wheels are depressed pretty far in the ground. Shipping from Erie, PA would run about 2K.

Looks messy but not totally a mess. I wonder about the Core??

Someone will buy it and part it out.

 
Black Jack

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If we are going to form a SA syndicate for this boat, I am in for 500 total for the year with proportional voting rights.  A single long weekend to get the boat ready for season. We should keep the boat in the lakes then move it to Carlsbad for the Fall. Someone needs to make a Minneys run after we secure the buy.  the good news is I still have left over 1/2 gallon of Vivid white, 2 fresh rollers and a few throw away brushes. 

https://www.cycracetomackinac.com/the-race/

 
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12 metre

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Cool little boat, BUT...

The boat is being auctioned and who knows what the reserve price is.  $2k, $5k, $10k?

Ad says sails all mylar (except maybe the spins, but even those could be mylar).  Anyways, inventory has to be 30+ yrs old.

That horizontal crack in the transom needs attention.  Likely due to the torque generated by the unsupported rudder post holder thingy.

Even if repaired, that will cause issues due to the unsupported nature of the thingy.  If it failed once it will likely fail again if you just repair and replicate the existing structure.  Having the top of the thingy supported by a cross beam or some form of lattice structure tied out to the upper corners of the deck/transom opening should alleviate the problem.  And should allow you to dispense with the gussets, which may be the root of the problem to begin with.

 
S291sailor

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I see a hint of the S2 pedigree along the toe rail and in the bow entry, but that's about it...

  • The cabin top seems way too forward to have been a 7.9. Without taking a measuring tape to it, I'm pretty sure the original cockpit was/is much small than this.
  • The cabin top also appears much narrower than the 7.9.
  • The cabin top/dog house actually smells more like the 6.7 or other S2 models in that size range. One of those models even had an offset companionway.
  • The stern doesn't bear much resemblance to the 7.9 at all.
  • The rig appears to be a masthead configuration. Don't quote me, but I think the early 7.9s were all fractional.
  • Furthermore, while the 7.9 came in a wide variety of configurations (diff keels, inboard vs outboard, frack vs masthead, etc), none of those configs jump out at me when I look at the photos.

The bottom line is that I'm having a hard time believing someone would invest the huge quantity of time necessary to so dramatically modify a 7.9 to look like this boat. And why would they choose to modify what is widely considered to be a very well built one-design boat.

All that being said, it appears it may have Enkes winches on it - which was a supplier used by the factory for a very brief time in the early 80's.

Being a 9.1 Meter owner, I don't possess as much history for the 7.9 - but this sort of begs the question: could this be a prototype built by G&S prior to S2 buying the design? There's gotta be someone out there who knows more than me about this...?

 
12 metre

12 metre

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sailman said:
I do not see any S2 (G&S) perigee in that boat
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Maybe not an S2 - but likely a G&S design.   Advertiser probably assumed since it was a G&S that it was an S2.  Or that it was a name more people would recognize.

There was the Mariah 27 (sometimes referred to as a G&S 27). 

Below is Lizzie B - a  G&S Mariah 27

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sailman

sailman

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12 metre said:
Maybe not an S2 - but likely a G&S design.   Advertiser probably assumed since it was a G&S that it was an S2.  Or that it was a name more people would recognize.

There was the Mariah 27 (sometimes referred to as a G&S 27). 

Below is Lizzie B - a  G&S Mariah 27

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There is no bustle from the Q4 period of the rule.  G&S used it to great advantage with the 7.9 and 9.1

 
12 metre

12 metre

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Lizzie B on the hard.  Similar foils - although the vertical rudder edges are swapped.  On the one advertised it is the trailing edge while on Lizzie B it is the leading edge.  Weird...since they both appear to be G&S MORC designs.

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redboat

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I will not look at that boat a second time. I will turn around and walk away without looking back over my shoulder.

Damn cool boat. Begging for some delusional idiot like me to waste way too much time and money on it, The siren song of boats beckons yet again.

 
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