More trouble for the Orange Jesus

[billy backstay]

how was two scoops even allowed to run. everyone knew what he was, yet the party wanted a celebrity.

Americans are mostly stupid and got what they deserved, sadly! The majority believed he was a masterful billionaire businessman, when in reality he's a failed, fake-reality show toady, many time bankrupt, and hardly a millionaire.

 

[Go Left]

Post-presidency, I think Nixon, Dubya and Clinton are clean. Can't say about Jax and Wilson.

Jackson and Wilson were just out and out racists, so any criminality would be a comparatively small stain on their characters.

 

[Voyageur]

Americans are mostly stupid and got what they deserved, sadly! The majority believed he was a masterful billionaire businessman, when in reality he's a failed, fake-reality show toady, many time bankrupt, and hardly a millionaire.

at least, he was an honest, man of the people, not some grifter like OZ.

 

[Lark]

Ummmmmmmmmmmm................ Jackson, Wilson, Nixon, Dubya, Clinton.... Actually probably every one except maybe Carter has some stench of criminality behind them.....

I didn't think Bush the livelier had enough energy or motivation to embark on any great cons.
Clinton was a scumbag. Newt's legal games did saddle him with personal debt, so he had little choice but to grift after leaving the office.
Reagan was too senile to sign his own name on any documents, any criminality was his family abusing his name. His administration obviously lacked oversight.
Ford?
Eisenhower?
Truman passed on opportunities in post WW II Florida real estate. He didn't want to cheapen the honor of the post by capitalizing on his fame. Instead, he had to crash in his MOL's house, until Congress got embarrassed and invented Presidential pensions. His greatest abuse was writing a personal letter from his government desk.
Wilson was limited by his stroke, his only post presidency con was convincing somebody to partner with him in a law office. This was dissolved as it was obvious he was no longer able to work. Kind of odd, that people once expected ex-presidents to actually contribute an honest day's work. He was clearly racist, cheated on his wife, but criminal?
Hoover? He was wealthy, but crooked?

I'm not a fan of Clinton, nor of the tradition of presidential book deals he seemed to start (but he really needed to pay off the legal debts caused by a blowjob.) He's about the sleaziest US POTUS of modern history, until Trump came along. He's an angel compared to Trump. Nobody compares to Trump, unless you count one of the Banana Republics, his hero Putin, or the man behind the flag often found in his truck parades or at gun shows next to the Trump banner, Hitler. Hitler was the first grifter king, since he had the government provide every couple a copy of his book when they got married, which of course provided him with a great commission check.

 

[Mrleft8]

I didn't think Bush the livelier had enough energy or motivation to embark on any great cons.
Clinton was a scumbag. Newt's legal games did saddle him with personal debt, so he had little choice but to grift after leaving the office.
Reagan was too senile to sign his own name on any documents, any criminality was his family abusing his name. His administration obviously lacked oversight.
Ford?
Eisenhower?
Truman passed on opportunities in post WW II Florida real estate. He didn't want to cheapen the honor of the post by capitalizing on his fame. Instead, he had to crash in his MOL's house, until Congress got embarrassed and invented Presidential pensions. His greatest abuse was writing a personal letter from his government desk.
Wilson was limited by his stroke, his only post presidency con was convincing somebody to partner with him in a law office. This was dissolved as it was obvious he was no longer able to work. Kind of odd, that people once expected ex-presidents to actually contribute an honest day's work. He was clearly racist, cheated on his wife, but criminal?
Hoover? He was wealthy, but crooked?

I'm not a fan of Clinton, nor of the tradition of presidential book deals he seemed to start (but he really needed to pay off the legal debts caused by a blowjob.) He's about the sleaziest US POTUS of modern history, until Trump came along. He's an angel compared to Trump. Nobody compares to Trump, unless you count one of the Banana Republics, his hero Putin, or the man behind the flag often found in his truck parades or at gun shows next to the Trump banner, Hitler. Hitler was the first grifter king, since he had the government provide every couple a copy of his book when they got married, which of course provided him with a great commission check.

I think you're being too kind.

 

[SloopJonB]

Sad, bigly. but this isn't over if I know DJT.

Judge orders independent monitor to oversee Trump's real estate empire​

Source: AP/Guardian

A Manhattan judge said Thursday that he would appoint an independent monitor to oversee Donald Trump’s real estate empire.

The move will restrict his company’s ability to freely make deals, sell assets and change its corporate structure.

Judge Arthur Engoron ordered the outside watchdog for the Trump Organization as he presides over a lawsuit in which the New York attorney general, Letitia James, alleges Trump and the company routinely misled banks and others about the value of prized assets, including golf courses and hotels bearing his name.

James’ office says the Trump Organization is continuing to engage in fraud and has taken steps to dodge potential penalties from the lawsuit, such as incorporating a new entity in Delaware named Trump Organization LLC almost identical to the original company’s name in September, just before the lawsuit was filed.



Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...p-manhattan-judge-independent-monitor-company

For regular people isn't that called "Receivership"?

 

[badlatitude]

I didn't think Bush the livelier had enough energy or motivation to embark on any great cons.
Clinton was a scumbag. Newt's legal games did saddle him with personal debt, so he had little choice but to grift after leaving the office.
Reagan was too senile to sign his own name on any documents, any criminality was his family abusing his name. His administration obviously lacked oversight.
Ford?
Eisenhower?
Truman passed on opportunities in post WW II Florida real estate. He didn't want to cheapen the honor of the post by capitalizing on his fame. Instead, he had to crash in his MOL's house, until Congress got embarrassed and invented Presidential pensions. His greatest abuse was writing a personal letter from his government desk.
Wilson was limited by his stroke, his only post presidency con was convincing somebody to partner with him in a law office. This was dissolved as it was obvious he was no longer able to work. Kind of odd, that people once expected ex-presidents to actually contribute an honest day's work. He was clearly racist, cheated on his wife, but criminal?
Hoover? He was wealthy, but crooked?

I'm not a fan of Clinton, nor of the tradition of presidential book deals he seemed to start (but he really needed to pay off the legal debts caused by a blowjob.) He's about the sleaziest US POTUS of modern history, until Trump came along. He's an angel compared to Trump. Nobody compares to Trump, unless you count one of the Banana Republics, his hero Putin, or the man behind the flag often found in his truck parades or at gun shows next to the Trump banner, Hitler. Hitler was the first grifter king, since he had the government provide every couple a copy of his book when they got married, which of course provided him with a great commission check.

GHWBush was a frigging war criminal, involved with Iran Contra, liked nothing better than dropping bombs on people and places. Remember the highway of death, and how Bush bombed the crap out of RETREATING military units? The dirty wars of Central America? it goes on and on.

Reagan was lucid enough to be right in the middle of Iran-Contra. HUD grant rigging, EPA scandals, 5 Savings and loan crisis. Wedtech, Debategate. Reagan had 138 convictions, indictments, or investigations of his administration during his tenure. (No wonder why Clinton was attacked, it was revenge)

Clinton? Had a total of two indictments in his administration, I understand why some don't like him for his skirt chasing, but it was less than Kennedy and Johnson. Clinton was sleazy to some, I have never been a prude so I don't see him as a colossal moral tragedy, he had no convictions, plenty of investigations that could not find anything wrong and nothing worth indictment. His book deal was no different than any other president starting with James Buchanan who wrote his personal memoirs in 1861 or Ulysses S. Grant who wrote his autobiography in 1885.

 

[badlatitude]

For regular people isn't that called "Receivership"?

Yes

 

[badlatitude]

 

[Stingray~]

Trump is getting more and more deranged, day by day, night by night. Whoever is writing this crap out for him too.

The combined severity of all these investigations is massive!

 

[badlatitude]

Trump is getting more and more deranged, day by day, night by night. Whoever is writing this crap out for him too.

The combined severity of all these investigations is massive!

 

[Stingray~]

Lol, good one.

It won't be long before he has run out of people to NOT go after. Well maybe except for forever lover-boy Kim Jong?

 

[phillysailor]

Remember the highway of death, and how Bush bombed the crap out of RETREATING military units?

I thought the whole point of war was to smash the opposing force when you can. If your strategy has created an opportunity, failing to exploit it does a disservice to those who fought to obtain it.

You have to respect the work of professionals tasked with a job and getting it done. If the policy goals were to bitch slap Saddam, sure, let them go.

GHWB came from the old school where America defeated enemies on the battlefield..

 

[Stingray~]

About the only thing noble that Bush Sr did was in eventually calling a halt to that situation, the terrible bloodbath for those Iraqi troops retreating from Kuwait was too disgusting to watch even for him.

 

[Ishmael]

Attorney General Merrick Garland is considering naming a special prosecutor to investigate Donald Trump as to insulate the Department of Justice as the former president makes an expected 2024 comeback attempt.



CNN's Erin Burnett on Thursday noted that Kellyanne Conway said we should expect Trump to "announce soon" a third White House campaign.

Burnett interviewed CNN senior justice correspondent Evan Perez.

"These are conversations they are having behind the scenes because, obviously, the possibility that the former president announces his candidacy for office again is real and is coming most likely after the election," Perez reported.

"And so one of the issues for the Justice Department is the prospect of having a department that answers to Tump's potential rival in 2024 doing an investigation of a sitting candidate, an ongoing candidate," he explained.

"And so, one of the ideas is, does a special counsel insulate the department from political criticism," he explained.

DOJ considering special counsel to investigate Trump: CNN

Attorney General Merrick Garland is considering naming a special prosecutor to investigate Donald Trump as to insulate the Department of Justice as the former president makes an expected 2024 comeback attempt.CNN's Erin Burnett on Thursday noted that Kellyanne Conway said we should expect Trump...

www.rawstory.com

 

[Stingray~]

Attorney General Merrick Garland is considering naming a special prosecutor to investigate Donald Trump as to insulate the Department of Justice as the former president makes an expected 2024 comeback attempt.



CNN's Erin Burnett on Thursday noted that Kellyanne Conway said we should expect Trump to "announce soon" a third White House campaign.

Burnett interviewed CNN senior justice correspondent Evan Perez.

"These are conversations they are having behind the scenes because, obviously, the possibility that the former president announces his candidacy for office again is real and is coming most likely after the election," Perez reported.

"And so one of the issues for the Justice Department is the prospect of having a department that answers to Tump's potential rival in 2024 doing an investigation of a sitting candidate, an ongoing candidate," he explained.

"And so, one of the ideas is, does a special counsel insulate the department from political criticism," he explained.

DOJ considering special counsel to investigate Trump: CNN

Attorney General Merrick Garland is considering naming a special prosecutor to investigate Donald Trump as to insulate the Department of Justice as the former president makes an expected 2024 comeback attempt.CNN's Erin Burnett on Thursday noted that Kellyanne Conway said we should expect Trump...

www.rawstory.com

It's a reasonable idea.

 

[Ishmael]

It's a reasonable idea.

I think it's a better idea to lock the motherfucker up before he declares.

 

[badlatitude]

I thought the whole point of war was to smash the opposing force when you can. If your strategy has created an opportunity, failing to exploit it does a disservice to those who fought to obtain it.

You have to respect the work of professionals tasked with a job and getting it done. If the policy goals were to bitch slap Saddam, sure, let them go.

GHWB came from the old school where America defeated enemies on the battlefield..

He certainly created an atmosphere of death and destruction. We used to honor the Geneva Convention before Iraq, but it was inconvenient to be held to high standards in war. His cabal of criminals faked the chemical weapons that he used to prosecute war, it was all a lie. I will not forgive HW, just as I will not forgive Henry Kissinger for Cambodia.

 

[Stingray~]

I think it's a better idea to lock the motherfucker up before he declares.

He would declare even from behind bars.

Many are speculating he will declare late next week regardless. What else does he have on his plate?

 

[jerseyguy]

He would declare even from behind bars.

Many are speculating he will declare late next week regardless. What else does he have on his plate?

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