I've caught the bug after spending a year windfoiling and am contemplating taking the plunge. I'm pretty rubbish at boat work, however. What tends to break on moths and how much boat work does it take to keep one on the water? I'd be looking at spending around 12k euro.
Thanks - that's pretty definitive. I've sailed a Waszp in Minorca Sailing and, while the foiling was great, I wasn't impressed by the boat itself. I've got an IQ foil windsurfing set up. It's great when the conditions are right but, like conventional windsurfing, it really requires goldilocks conditions. That's why I was considering a moth - consistent foiling in a wider range of conditions. What tends to require attention and what do beginners tend to break? Just to confirm, it would be 12k euro so I'd be looking at an older Mach2 or maybe a Voodoo.Absolutely don't get a moth (especially one for 12k) if you aren't serious about boatwork. It is a constant and intrinsic part of moth sailing.
12k will get you a waspz if you really want to get into sailing a foiling boat, but there will still be work with it.
Have you looked at wing foiling or foiling kites?
You will have the opposite in a moth. The Waspz comes with two different sail sizes and can be sailed in far more wind than a Moth. We have a lot of both in my club and the Waspz fleet get far more sailing for a variety of reasons including conditionsThat's why I was considering a moth - consistent foiling in a wider range of conditions.
You've been reading too much SimonN. As a newbie to the class with a 12k production Moth that wasn't going to happen. Maybe 15 kn once you get the hang of it, 17 kn after a season or two.Pity - I like the idea of doing 22 knots upwind!
I sailed one for a week or so in Minorca Sailing about 3 years ago, so things might have changed with the boat in the interim. It seemed to need a lot of wind to get foiling, That said, I was 80kg or so at the time so that might have been a factor. We do have a local fleet, however, and it's exclusively kids sailing them. In less than 12 knots or so, said kids don't foil. I also thought they were unnecessarily difficult to launch. Getting the foils down while on the water was a fiddly nightmare. My windfoil will happily sit at 16-17 knots upwind and I gather a Waszp would be a good bit slower.What did you not like about the waspz?
You might be already sailing on the best foiling platform for your money and boat work budgets. Hard to beat an IQ.I sailed one for a week or so in Minorca Sailing about 3 years ago, so things might have changed with the boat in the interim. It seemed to need a lot of wind to get foiling, That said, I was 80kg or so at the time so that might have been a factor. We do have a local fleet, however, and it's exclusively kids sailing them. In less than 12 knots or so, said kids don't foil. I also thought they were unnecessarily difficult to launch. Getting the foils down while on the water was a fiddly nightmare. My windfoil will happily sit at 16-17 knots upwind and I gather a Waszp would be a good bit slower.
I think that's probably fair.You might be already sailing on the best foiling platform for your money and boat work budgets. Hard to beat an IQ.
Waspz doesn't need much more wind than a moth, comes with a large sail that most people use (in my club everyone exclusively uses the large sail except one girl). Three years ago Minorca Sailing might have been the old foils, they were replaced by larger ones in 2018 or 2019 - made a big difference. It's also easier and faster to launch than a moth so if you found that difficult, you're unlikely to be able to launch a moth at all.I sailed one for a week or so in Minorca Sailing about 3 years ago, so things might have changed with the boat in the interim. It seemed to need a lot of wind to get foiling, That said, I was 80kg or so at the time so that might have been a factor. We do have a local fleet, however, and it's exclusively kids sailing them. In less than 12 knots or so, said kids don't foil. I also thought they were unnecessarily difficult to launch. Getting the foils down while on the water was a fiddly nightmare. My windfoil will happily sit at 16-17 knots upwind and I gather a Waszp would be a good bit slower.
AgreedYou've been reading too much SimonN. As a newbie to the class with a 12k production Moth that wasn't going to happen. Maybe 15 kn once you get the hang of it, 17 kn after a season or two.