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Meat Wad
Super Anarchist
It's obvious that most of that fleet is in the Wide and tight rounding mindset.
WAY TOO WIDE and tight
WAY TOO WIDE and tight
bodega87
Anarchist
He was ducking stbd boats? Not sure theres any "move" here.
RobbieB
Super Anarchist
"wide and tight" when the next leg is a reaching leg?????
RobbieB
Super Anarchist
Only way to get inside the others. It was pretty risky. Other guys were asleep or they would have shut that door and things would have gotten ugly...
Meat Wad
Super Anarchist
The SVK boat sure was sheeted in tight for a reaching leg when he was turning.
The whole fleet opened the door, maybe 878 knew the fleet. Sure seems like everyone went way wide
ROADKILL666
Super Anarchist
That took balls of steel.
Spoonie
Anarchist
My experience is it works more than it doesn’t. If it pin wheels a the video describes, the outside boats are stuffed. They can’t get to the mark to close the door. If they all nose to tail into the mark, the boat behind is stuffed.
It all comes down to whether the outside boats are likely to sail past the mark before making their turn. Gybe Mark, in those conditions, with the outside boats all focussed on themselves.... unlikely to notice that sneaky fscker till it’s too late. Odds of success are pretty high.
lighter winds and slower boats they can all set them selves up a little better and shut the door. It can still work though as the outside guys aren’t focussing on you. You can end up with three boats parked in their own dirty air whil you nip through on the inside.
it all comes down to making the opportunity like this guy has done, and having an exit plan. You need to be highly focussed on the boats around you and not say, your own boat handling.
Pokey uh da LBC
Anarchist
Looks like a risk v reward situation. My issue with the move is that he isn't risking places in the standings, but damage to other people's boats. It worked out this time. But could have gotten real ugly.
RobbieB
Super Anarchist
Well. There was no one to weather of him so he could have spun out if needed. Might have taken the mark with him, but better than nailing a boat.
Alcatraz5768
Super Anarchist
Fortune favours the bold.
Pokey uh da LBC
Anarchist
True, and he did get the kite down early, but still, it was a pretty dicey move. Maybe he gets away without damage 90%-95% of the time.
So, is a tactical move that comes with a 5% chance to damage a competitor's boat a good call?
Actually, this brings up an interesting question: What percentage change of damaging a competitor's boat, is worth a maneuver that will advance your standings by one place? [I know that was a terrible sentence, but...]
biglebroski
New member
I missed the whole move, I was asleep from the music.
DavidYacht
Member
Demonstrates once again why dog leg downwind finishes are unsatisfactory, can have a good race for 95% of the time, and a chancer can come in and take multiple places.
Alcatraz5768
Super Anarchist
Worry much? He had an escape route, didn't even touch another boat let alone damage one, and performed a pretty clever move extremely well. Hes a star in my books.
Meat Wad
Super Anarchist
I agree, I wondered why a course like that would be used. Does not make any sense to reach for 30 yards.
A short reaching leg after the leeward mark is pretty common around here if it's a big fleet. It decreases the congestion at the leeward mark, i.e., the upwind boats interfere less with the boats yet to round.
Gouvernail
Lottsa people don’t know I’m famous
It is nice to see a fleet of J-22 having a fun close race
