Multihulls in Sydney to Hobart

[paulnudd]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-16/team-australia-skipper-wants-multihulls-in-sydney-to-hobart/5027068

 

[SeaGul]

Well, I think its the Sydney-Hobart that will need multihulls soon - - if not it will be a second-grade arrangement.....multihulls can do without that race

they will surge on anyway.....

 

[ozmultis]

Of course they want to keep multis out, If you just spent many many many millions on a canting keel motorboat, you wouldnt want to be beaten - in fact handed your arse, by a boat costing much much much less.

 

[cynophobe]

Of course they want to keep multis out, If you just spent many many many millions on a canting keel motorboat, you wouldnt want to be beaten - in fact handed your arse, by a boat costing much much much less.

Ha ha,Oatly probably spends more on mods and sails each year than what the boys paid for either of the big tris.It won't happen over night but it will happen.

 

[Babel fish]

So....if the race is so bad, why do you want to enter. If you really want to do a syd to Hobart , get your club to put it on, with your association managing all the details.....oh that's right you don,t have any association.....would it be OMR....if you can all agree on what that is ?

Really all you want to do is stick it up the boats you don,t like.....why does it matter so much ?. could it be you want acceptance but can't get over the fact the Mono hull fleet don,t care.....really.

I will now stand back and let you throw rocks.........

 

[SeaGul]

To not allow all qualified sailboats to join a big world known event ... isnt that a kind of racism?

...and if this is a "no care" for the monos - why not let the multis join?

 

[Babel fish]

The same tired argument........don,t bring a base ball bat to a cricket game ? It,s not racist at all. Put on your own Sydney Hobart ...

 

[SeaGul]

well its about to bring a sailboat to a regatta....

But dont you think S-H will loose its relevance in the end - when more and more hot boats in the area are multis - and its getting more common for all?

 

[Babel fish]

Your argument is rather strange.....mono are mono hulls ....lead mines in your charitable speak and then there are sports boats and a range of other sail boats.....to the argument I put....put up a notice of race for multi,s and do your own Hobart, start your own tradition. There is no one stopping you.

Or is ityou just want to do the we are faster than you stuff ?.....not much cred in that. Look at what Langman is doing.....doing it and doing well, putting his money where his mouth is and not having a go at other sail boats.

As to making it more common for all, what multi,s do you expect will do a Hobart that would be common for all and as to hot boats....the foiling moth is pretty hot and as much as it is the wild past show it,s not a 4 knot shit box......AC boats another story but in a class of it,s own

Promote you class of boat on it,s merits and not based on having a go at other craft and laughing at them because you are faster ?

 

[SeaGul]

My basic point is that the S-H Race itself will be the looser in the end by keeping the multis out.

I cant see that you have any argument to that?

Almost all the worlds classic races allow multis - and it just been better sailing and more interesting to be a sailor, and to watch.

 

[Trovão]

My basic point is that the S-H Race itself will be the looser in the end by keeping the multis out.

I cant see that you have any argument to that?

Almost all the worlds classic races allow multis - and it just been better sailing and more interesting to be a sailor, and to watch.

using this word annoys me, as if multis were some kind of outlaws or renegades that are trying to re-socialize and managed to be "allowed" in.

i'd rather use the word "invited" that usually appears on the SIs of the events - invited classes.

 

[ozmultis]

So....if the race is so bad, why do you want to enter. If you really want to do a syd to Hobart , get your club to put it on, with your association managing all the details.....oh that's right you don,t have any association.....would it be OMR....if you can all agree on what that is ?

Really all you want to do is stick it up the boats you don,t like.....why does it matter so much ?. could it be you want acceptance but can't get over the fact the Mono hull fleet don,t care.....really.

I will now stand back and let you throw rocks.........

Heres a rock. Mate I couldn't give a crap, I just think that its disappointing that a guy like Langman who has been a CYCA member for a million years and who has supported the race with old and new fast and slow boats is told to piss off. As for the "tradition" of the half boat S2H, sure pal, its a been a tradition to have motorboats in sail boat races. Stupid stupid race the S2H - the leading boats now have to withdraw if their motor stops, that makes a shit load of sense.

Look at what Langman is doing.....doing it and doing well, putting his money where his mouth is and not having a go at other sail boats.

Have a look at this interview pal, I think he is pretty cranky with the CYCA

http://www.multihullcentral.com/orma-60-trimaran-to-race-sydney-to-hobart/

 

[Keith]

It's inevitable, There will be a multihull division.

It just takes some events, a lot longer too catch up.

 

[wombat 12m]

Babel fish,

Is the Fastnet, the oldest ocean race in the world, a worse race for having multihulls? I personally don't think so. I've done it in monos and in multis.The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.The world is a diverse place and the all the better for it.

 

[SCARECROW]

Most of this thread is about the hassle of getting multis up to the safety requirements of the race north which begs the question, with the exception of the big blue boat currently going around the top of New Zealand how many boats in Australia could meet the safety requirements of the Hobart?

If multis are serious about being involved they need to present a complete package including.

1. A pre-prepared and committed fleet that don't require any concessions with regards to safety of sufficient size to get the interest of organizers.

2. A division sponsor which doesn't clash with any existing sponsors

3. Be willing to make concessions to keep/ share the spotlight with the monos. eg give the Monos a big head start. IIRC the Wild Oats record is about is about 42 hours and Team Australia's is about 30 hours. A 12 hour head start would have the multis starting at 1am so that wont work. In the spirit of "sharing" multis should be willing to start at 8am the next day. This has the added advantage of keeping the fleets overlapped for as long as possible and having some big stable platforms coming from behind in the event of boat breakages in the monohull fleet.

 

[Babel fish]

Well, I think its the Sydney-Hobart that will need multihulls soon - - if not it will be a second-grade arrangement.....multihulls can do without that race

they will surge on anyway.....

So there you go.....Scarecrow has made the most sensible comment so far, maybe the Hobart isn,t second grade ?.......and the multi,s do want to do the race.

 

[PIL66 - XL2]

Yawn...........again

 

[bushsailor]

I believe that both orma tris will do the Sydney to Hobart this year regardless.

 

[SCARECROW]

Yawn...........again

Exactly.