My even newer project for The Man In The Moon

[Bob Perry]

DDW:

I know the term "snotter" but I usually associate it with a line that goes for the end of the gaff to the mast to reduce twist on gaff rigs.

Doesn't matter. I'm good for any line called a "snotter".

Thanks.

 

[Ishmael]

As far as I know, the full wishbone rigs have always called that tensioning line a snotter. I assumed they got it from half-wishbone predecessors.

 

[lasal]

Windsurf rigs got rid of the snotter and went to a mechanical clamp. That was a nice upgrade.

 

[MauiPunter]

Windsurf rigs got rid of the snotter and went to a mechanical clamp. That was a nice upgrade.

Very!

 

[DDW]

On Nonsuches and Wylies they call the tackle a "choker". I don't know if that was a term developed by the marketing department as more consumer friendly, but that is what everyone calls them.

 

[SloopJonB]

They were probably scandalized by the snotter.

 

[Alcatraz5768]

DDW:

It is unstayed now. I'm going to have it step in sleeves against the aft cockpit wall. It would be very easy to stand on deck and remove it. I'm not sure why you would but I like the option.

What is the diameter of your mizzen? I'm guessing at 4" dia. That would look right. Have to see what is available in NZ as a stock tube.

Contact Kilwell Fibertube in Roturua, they are amazing to deal with. As for the sheet for the 'little back sail' (sorry I don't know where we are on the correct name for it) maybe consider either a bridle from each corner of the step, with the mainsheet purchase fixed in the centre or even better,a dinghy style split mainsheet, so one side could be unclipped and clipped onto the opposite side then tensioned up to give a clear run at the step, but with both parts of the mainsheet on one corner as a handhold.

 

[jhiller]

Pano:

That would be my hope. But I'm not willing to compromise the hull shape and give up windward performance potential.

Ish & Ranti:

The sole of the fwd cockpit IS deck level. It's part of the deck camber. It will drain at the aft end out to the side deck.

If you look at my interior plan drawing and look at the profile what you see as the cockpit sole forward is wrong. That was an early revision.

Here is a newer drawing:

If you look at both the profile and the section I think it will make sense. It will come down to evaluating the impact of the well on the layout forward. Not sure where we will end up yet.

I can see that the cabin sole beneath the forward cockpit has been lowered a bit. Has headroom been compromised much to add that feature ? My old BCC has a spot going forward where headroom was reduced. It corresponded with the main bulkhead.

 

[Bob Perry]

James:

Yes, headroom under that area is 5'6.5". Client and his wife are both tall. But having the area on deck as drawn is a priority.

 

[chippin' away]

Care to share why you call your client the Man on the Moon? The boat seems a little out there... Are you sure he is for real?

 

[Veeger]

DDW:

I know the term "snotter" but I usually associate it with a line that goes for the end of the gaff to the mast to reduce twist on gaff rigs.

Doesn't matter. I'm good for any line called a "snotter".

Thanks.

Actually, that line was properly called a 'vang'. With the advent and popularity of the boom vang, the original term began to be lost along with the decline of the gaff rig. 'vang' is also the term we used on ships for the lines that controlled cargo booms and derricks in a way similar to a gaff. They always came as a pair also.

My understanding is that a 'snotter' is usually more of a tensioning device, most often used for the sprit in a sprit rig originally

 

[Bob Perry]

Veegs:L

I thought "snotter" was a two year old screaming for his mother.

Don't even ask me how I know.

 

[Veeger]

Definitely

Veegs:L

I thought "snotter" was a two year old screaming for his mother.

Don't even ask me how I know.

Definitely true this! (I don't even have to ask how you know...)

'snotty' is the two year old with either a 'tude' or wet boogers.

'snooty' is someone who thinks rather higher of themselves due to education or wealth when they compare themselves with people who prefer beer

 

[Raz'r]

A self centering bridle for the aft sail makes a bunch of sense. Would self center when wanted for a riding sail, etc

 

[DDW]

A self centering bridle for the aft sail makes a bunch of sense. Would self center when wanted for a riding sail, etc

The problem with a bridle is it does not self center very stiffly, allowing some side to side flop. As a riding sail you do not wanting it moving at all.

 

[SloopJonB]

Definitely

Veegs:L

I thought "snotter" was a two year old screaming for his mother.

Don't even ask me how I know.

Definitely true this! (I don't even have to ask how you know...)

'snotty' is the two year old with either a 'tude' or wet boogers.

'snooty' is someone who thinks rather higher of themselves due to education or wealth when they compare themselves with people who prefer beer

Since the explosion in craft beer, even beer drinkers are getting snooty. The other day I saw two guys "tasting" beer in fucking stemmed glasses.

 

[Raz'r]

A self centering bridle for the aft sail makes a bunch of sense. Would self center when wanted for a riding sail, etc

The problem with a bridle is it does not self center very stiffly, allowing some side to side flop. As a riding sail you do not wanting it moving at all.

it doesn't have to. the sheet should be spiced such that the sheet to bridle splice is right at the turning blocks when under max tension. Not to trick to get right, as you can splice the bridle to the boat (or tie it) after the sheet to bridle splice is in place.

 

[lasal]

The 10oz (ml?) glasses are stemmed. Those poors are generally high abv, 8 to 12+ % and or small batch uber beers. Same price as a pint. Puts the crafty in craft beers. Snooty? A little. Tasty? Yep. Lot like a tri-radial or string mizzen.

 

[Ishmael]

The 10oz (ml?) glasses are stemmed. Those poors are generally high abv, 8 to 12+ % and or small batch uber beers. Same price as a pint. Puts the crafty in craft beers. Snooty? A little. Tasty? Yep. Lot like a tri-radial or string mizzen.

Ah, string mizzen.

 

[lasal]

The 10oz (ml?) glasses are stemmed. Those poors are generally high abv, 8 to 12+ % and or small batch uber beers. Same price as a pint. Puts the crafty in craft beers. Snooty? A little. Tasty? Yep. Lot like a tri-radial or string mizzen.

Ah, string mizzen.

Sailmakers make too much.