My even newer project for The Man In The Moon

[Ed Lada]

Blame it on the Belgians. Talk about snooty!

They do make some really good beer (besides Stella), and are very picky about what glass it gets served in.

"I can't sell you that beer, we don't have the right glass for it"

Drinking (or "tasting") beer out of stemware is just bullshit pretension - it's the equivalent of eating a pizza with a knife & fork.

What's next with these snooty beer people? A raised pinky when they sip?

Drinking Cantillon out of a pint glass would be about as "wrong" as hanging a 50hp Mercury off the back of a cat boat. Nothing snooty or pretentious about it, just right and wrong

I agree. A good beer is enhanced by a good glass, Just like with a good wine, an appropriate glass enhances the experience on a sensory level as well as an aesthetic level. That is why many people don't bother with a glass for American beers, they don't taste any worse directly out of a bottle or can and it is usually served so cold you can't taste anything anyway.

And many people in Europe eat pizza with a knife and fork! Most of the time the pizza is served whole, not cut into slices anyway. Comparing a real Italian pizza to American pizza is like comparing a fine Belgian beer to Bud Light.

 

[SloopJonB]

Wasn't effete pretension a creation of the European upper classes?

And by the way, my sister owned a restaurant and pizzeria in Florence for about 30 years so I know a little about "real" pizza.

 

[Presuming Ed]

Perfect. A work of art - he really was good.

I thinks so too, even if Bob disagrees.

 

[IStream]

Blame it on the Belgians. Talk about snooty!

They do make some really good beer (besides Stella), and are very picky about what glass it gets served in.

"I can't sell you that beer, we don't have the right glass for it"

Drinking (or "tasting") beer out of stemware is just bullshit pretension - it's the equivalent of eating a pizza with a knife & fork.

What's next with these snooty beer people? A raised pinky when they sip?

Drinking Cantillon out of a pint glass would be about as "wrong" as hanging a 50hp Mercury off the back of a cat boat. Nothing snooty or pretentious about it, just right and wrong

I agree. A good beer is enhanced by a good glass, Just like with a good wine, an appropriate glass enhances the experience on a sensory level as well as an aesthetic level. That is why many people don't bother with a glass for American beers, they don't taste any worse directly out of a bottle or can and it is usually served so cold you can't taste anything anyway.
And many people in Europe eat pizza with a knife and fork! Most of the time the pizza is served whole, not cut into slices anyway. Comparing a real Italian pizza to American pizza is like comparing a fine Belgian beer to Bud Light.

Maybe the "American" beer and pizza you get over in Poland, but there's plenty of good beer and pizza back in the States.

 

[Shu]

To give the others here a better idea of what Raz'r is talking about:

The "bridle" consists of two separate lines. Each is attached to a corner of the transom and runs through its own block on the boom. From there they run forward along (or inside) the boom, and tie off to the same purchase. It will perfectly center the boom. When eased, it is always the windward sheet that takes the load.

 

[Ed Lada]

Blame it on the Belgians. Talk about snooty!

They do make some really good beer (besides Stella), and are very picky about what glass it gets served in.

"I can't sell you that beer, we don't have the right glass for it"

Drinking (or "tasting") beer out of stemware is just bullshit pretension - it's the equivalent of eating a pizza with a knife & fork.

What's next with these snooty beer people? A raised pinky when they sip?

Drinking Cantillon out of a pint glass would be about as "wrong" as hanging a 50hp Mercury off the back of a cat boat. Nothing snooty or pretentious about it, just right and wrong

I agree. A good beer is enhanced by a good glass, Just like with a good wine, an appropriate glass enhances the experience on a sensory level as well as an aesthetic level. That is why many people don't bother with a glass for American beers, they don't taste any worse directly out of a bottle or can and it is usually served so cold you can't taste anything anyway.
And many people in Europe eat pizza with a knife and fork! Most of the time the pizza is served whole, not cut into slices anyway. Comparing a real Italian pizza to American pizza is like comparing a fine Belgian beer to Bud Light.

Maybe the "American" beer and pizza you get over in Poland, but there's plenty of good beer and pizza back in the States.

My mother was born and raised in Rome, Italy. I know good pizza. I agree there are some very good craft brews in the USA nowadays.

 

[fufkin]

A specified glass by a brewer should not be dismissed as mere pretension. It may in fact have a practical purpose.

Take for example, the label on the back of a bottle of Chimay, a Trappiste Belgian brew that got its start in the 1400s(not exactly an upstart craft brewery). They show a logo of the recommended glass beside a taller glass with an x through it. Even w a high skill level and attention to detail, it is very difficult to attain a decent pour in the wrong shaped glass.

As for Stella, a thing of beauty with a past that might surprise some. Travelling once through the Czech Republic...every town has its own special brew and whether it's the train station or a high end restaurant if the pour doesn't have a perfect 1' head(hence the pour line)...they'll probably get shut down. Strangely enough...beside the local beers was always only one foreign tap...Stella. Apparently all hops for Stella are grown in Czech.

As for the hipsterati craft tasters...I'm more of a craft guzzler. Craft brewing has put a 30% dent in the big beer market worldwide and I'm happy to claim a sizable contribution in helping out the little guys with this.

On my boat however, I spec for cans only...better volume packing in the frigo.

Hope this helps.

 

[monsoon]

On my boat however, I spec for cans only...better volume packing in the frigo.

Yup, bottles and boats don't mix well and there are now many good canned beers.

 

[Panoramix]

Stumbled onto this photo which may or may not be relevant for the mizzen.

 

[Bryanjb]

On my boat however, I spec for cans only...better volume packing in the frigo.

Yup, bottles and boats don't mix well and there are now many good canned beers.

Or this...

 

[Bryanjb]

Thought there was something familiar about the mizzen..

http://www.nigelirens.com/boats/sail-boats/roxane

Going to post this here. Psyche by the late Ed Burnett, who AIUI collaborated with Nigel Irens on the Westernman pilot cutter designs.

That's a pretty boat.

 

[sledracr]

A specified glass by a brewer should not be dismissed as mere pretension. It may in fact have a practical purpose.

I don't know nuthin' about good beer, but this is definitely true for good scotch.

the right glass can make a good scotch sublime. The wrong glass can make a good scotch boring.

 

[hobot]

So using a straw in the bottle is wrong?

 

[SloopJonB]

A specified glass by a brewer should not be dismissed as mere pretension. It may in fact have a practical purpose.

I don't know nuthin' about good beer, but this is definitely true for good scotch.

the right glass can make a good scotch sublime. The wrong glass can make a good scotch boring.

Absolutely - nice glassware makes the difference between an enjoyable and rewarding experience and a quasi-alcoholic indulgence.

Beer should be served in beer glasses or mugs, not stemware and it should be quaffed, not "tasted".

Scotch should be served in heavy Old Fashioned glasses, not stemware like they usually do in the UK.

Wine should be served in stemware, not tumblers or those weird stemless stemware glasses that have appeared in fairly recent years.

No alcoholic drink should be served in any form of plastic - ever.

Clear? :angry:

 

[Alcatraz5768]

This is one reason that I don't drink, too easy to fuck it up.

 

[sledracr]

Scotch should be served in heavy Old Fashioned glasses

Not sure if serious. A wide straight-sided glass is the *worst* thing to serve scotch in. At least...good scotch

The perfect glass has a bowl shaped like a thistle (see: Scotland). warming the bowl in your hands allows the subtle scents to collect and concentrate, makes for a much more pleasant experience.

http://www.bevmo.com/catalog/product/view/id/3010

Doesn't have to be stemmed. And won't make the slightest difference with Johnny Walker Red. But if you're going to pop for a 21-year-old Balvenie aged in port-wood, or a nice sherry-aged Macallan or Aberlour, or a smoky Lagavulin... it'd be a shame to miss out on everything the dram has to offer.

 

[IStream]

Those weird stemless wine glasses fit in the dishwasher a lot easier.

And yes, I sail a Catalina, drink Corona, and buy my coffee in 5lb bags at Costco.

 

[Mr. Ed]

Those weird stemless wine glasses fit in the dishwasher a lot easier.

And yes, I sail a Catalina, drink Corona, and buy my coffee in 5lb bags at Costco.

They also survive in a yott better than stemmed ones, and are fine for snorting scotch from also.

 

[SemiSalt]

Meanwhile, your cocktail shaker:

http://www.artnet.com/artists/international-silver/boston-lighthouse-cocktail-shaker-model-352-dCM04DUjQdpKBHdqkzTqhg2

 

[lasal]

A specified glass by a brewer should not be dismissed as mere pretension. It may in fact have a practical purpose.

I don't know nuthin' about good beer, but this is definitely true for good scotch.
the right glass can make a good scotch sublime. The wrong glass can make a good scotch boring.

Absolutely - nice glassware makes the difference between an enjoyable and rewarding experience and a quasi-alcoholic indulgence.

Beer should be served in beer glasses or mugs, not stemware and it should be quaffed, not "tasted".

Scotch should be served in heavy Old Fashioned glasses, not stemware like they usually do in the UK.

Wine should be served in stemware, not tumblers or those weird stemless stemware glasses that have appeared in fairly recent years.

No alcoholic drink should be served in any form of plastic - ever.

Clear? :angry:

Sloop, the 10oz beer glasses are on stout stems and really work well. 10oz mugs look stupid. 15% abv beers by the pint or mug could bring down the industry and leave us back in the days of Molsen and other yellow beers. Help us out. Tone down the vitriol. Please.

Monsoon: great shot of the cans. Lots of Colorado beers in there. Dales was among the first good camping and boating beers in cans.