New Beneteau First 36

[Swimsailor]

Sailing World released a render today then I found this...

https://www.sail-world.com/news/240349/Introducing-the-Beneteau-First-36

Looks like a nice modern update.  Hopefully they sell a ton.

 

[BayRacer]

From marketing copy, looks like a lot of cooks. No wonder new boats cost so much. Guessing Us$700k??  The local powerboat dealer has many options/brands. Typical twin engine 43-50 is 750-1.3M, though they have 2 much bigger engines than ~36-40’ sailboat.    

Hope they do well too. 

 

[Swimsailor]

From marketing copy, looks like a lot of cooks. No wonder new boats cost so much. Guessing Us$700k??  The local powerboat dealer has many options/brands. Typical twin engine 43-50 is 750-1.3M, though they have 2 much bigger engines than ~36-40’ sailboat.    

Hope they do well too. 

$700k???  Maybe $300k.

 

[Only Fools Rush In]

What a boring design.  h34r:

 

[basketcase]

I thought they dropped it.

 

[Parma]

From marketing copy, looks like a lot of cooks. No wonder new boats cost so much. Guessing Us$700k??  The local powerboat dealer has many options/brands. Typical twin engine 43-50 is 750-1.3M, though they have 2 much bigger engines than ~36-40’ sailboat.    

Hope they do well too. 

Wassup doooood?

The Bene 46.1, which is really 48' overall, with the taller carbon mast & teak decks, electronics package, AP, electric winches etc etc is 775 delivered to the west coast of the US, or so I'm told by someone who bought one.

Looks like outboard chainplates so maybe a smaller headsail & zero is contemplated

 

[Jono]

I'm looking forward to it. Appeals far more than a 3300 or Elan.

Sounds like a progression of the 34.7/35 in that it will get on the step compared with the 36.7 reaching terminal velocity just into double figures. And it's a Manuard hull and Pure engineering. That is top level.

 

[George Hackett]

So why nothing mentioned on their websites?

 

[SCARECROW]

So why nothing mentioned on their websites?

probably because most web sites are 2-3 years out of date.

 

[JL92S]

People that think it looks a bit plain or boring have to remember where it must sit in the Jeanneau-Beneteau universe. With the 3300 and new 3700/3800/3900 in the pipeline which take up the more aggressive end of the scale, the First must be more of the cruiser/racer rather than racer/cruiser/irc racer that the Sunfasts are. I always thought the new mid 30s First would be more like a Grand Soleil 34. Despite all this expect to probably see one turn up in the next Transquadra race

 

[European Bloke]

Is there a rendering of the keel attachment design?

 

[TwoLegged]

Is there a rendering of the keel attachment design?

Of course there is

 

[Jono]

Hopefully it will be IRC 1.05 rather 1.02.

Creates a whole new dimension for a boat that size and volume.

 

[Matagi]

People that think it looks a bit plain or boring have to remember where it must sit in the Jeanneau-Beneteau universe. With the 3300 and new 3700/3800/3900 in the pipeline which take up the more aggressive end of the scale, the First must be more of the cruiser/racer rather than racer/cruiser/irc racer that the Sunfasts are. I always thought the new mid 30s First would be more like a Grand Soleil 34. Despite all this expect to probably see one turn up in the next Transquadra race

I think you kinda overlooked the whole former Seascape universe there. 

 

[Jackdaw]

I'm optimistic, and impatiently waiting for the published light displacement. At or below 9000 lbs and it has my FULL attention.

 

[T sailor]

Doubt it will be under 10,000lbs.  The sunfast’s are typically more stripped than a First and the 3600 was around 10,500.  I would bet this will be around 11,500.  
 

It is a pretty non descript plain Jane looking Clorox bottle.  If it had some promise of performance it could be interesting but the couple renders out there don’t look to promising.  

 

[Jackdaw]

Doubt it will be under 10,000lbs.  The sunfast’s are typically more stripped than a First and the 3600 was around 10,500.  I would bet this will be around 11,500.  
 

It is a pretty non descript plain Jane looking Clorox bottle.  If it had some promise of performance it could be interesting but the couple renders out there don’t look to promising.  

Hmm. I had a First 36.7 That weighed 11500, and it was made out of solid glass with a fully kitted interior. The stated design goal for the First 36 was:

The main promise of the sailing experience of the First 36 is planing in medium winds by short-handed or fully crewed teams while remaining an allround boat - a perfect club racer and a capable family cruiser.

To me this says they must have targeted the J/111 in terms of a performance envelope.

but as you note, we've have to wait and see. Is it more Beneteau, or more Seascape??

 

[Bump-n-Grind]

I find too many similarities between these two boats to get very excited about either one. 

 

[steele]

The news release touting the combination of a family cruiser with the largest living accommodations in it's class, combined with planing in medium winds, seems a bit optimistic. Perhaps the the interior will be huge and light because it is almost empty, just a portapotty and a few yoga mats to sleep on.

I don't mind the design. They need to keep the look consistent with the Beneteau line, but the blocky cabin house has been toned down and the whole boat has a more balanced look than their other offerings. The renderings do not give us a very good idea of freeboard, but I hope they avoid the over-tall slab sided aesthetic of the more cruise oriented boats.