we called it a beachball ;-)
New Beneteau First 36
- Thread starter Swimsailor
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Not bad.... Would have you almost flat with Yes! The top rated JPK1080.
You must be pleasantly surprised. Mind sharing what size kites / headsails etc? Does it weigh in at the promised 4.8 tons or has it put on a bit?
nick_kellog9
New member
Yeah I wasn't super impressed...
jacksparrow
Anarchist
The 36.7 was a great boat. Sailed one for 11 years. The price was low enough that we would see regional one design events get in to the mid twenties for entrants. 2007 NA's in Buffalo had 47 boats. Still was fun under phrf after the numbers started dropping. It's agreeably not as fun as a new 36, but at $400k you are never going to see one design events. Of course that's not what its designed for. But truthfully I'd rather have a used J111 and save the $150k for maintenance and future sail inventories.
nick_kellog9
New member
The one I was on I think was just set up funky... I've heard good things about them from others and they have a good one design class. Hard getting walked by J105's left and right
'Bacco
Member
If you are getting dog walked by 105's in a 36.7, the problem probably isn't the boat.
nick_kellog9
New member
Hey I don't disagree, I've been trying to figure out what the issue was.
I'll attach a photo of the bottom when I get one.
Our mechanics weren't amazing, the crew is very green. But even when we improved greatly things weren't working. Good starts, etc etc... They just kept making trees upwind. Helmsman said he had very little helm and felt reasonably balanced.
I'm just trying to improve overall
danstanford
Anarchist
Not only do we all have to work through that phase of why does it feel like I am dragging a bucket, the solutions are often many little things and a few big ones. Next come the days when all the forgoing is sorted and you are slow again!
sam_crocker
Super Anarchist
Have you checked the nut on the end of the tiller?
Kristian Seascape
Member
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We weigh all boats before shipping out and even with water heater, webasto, 70kg of anchor chain and anchor, whatever gains that come through options (it pisses me off as we are always adding stuff, never taking them out) were compensated with improvements in hull and deck core layups with cnc milled core panels.
Our "trial" IRC certificate was 1.058 without any optimization and "wet halyard" IRC shenanigans...
nick_kellog9
New member
Probably the real issue if I'm being honest😂
Foxtrot Corpen
Super Anarchist
If the rig of a Bene 36.7 is not tuned well (for each day even) it can feel like a pig. After a proper rig tune, the boat will come alive and feel like a new ride!
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pqbon
Anarchist
I've had good experiances on both the 40.7 and 36.7... They do require tuning and are sensitive to weight placement. They also both give good helm if setup correctly. Responsive but also great feedback.
Qingdaosog
Member
Qingdaosog
Member
Interesting Lars Reisberg of No Frills Sailing fame has changed his mind. He was well on with his plans to buy a First 36 but has now completely change direction to buy a new(ish) rendition of the Omega 42 originally produced 50 years ago. Is that a great hull shape that can be dragged into the 2020's? It would be good to get opinions on that. Back into the future!
Matagi
Super Antichrist
I first thought he was buying and old one to refurb that.
Having a 'new' one is...an interesting choice, let's say.
floater
Super Duper Anarchist
Norlin IOR boat. this can't be real.. nfw.
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'Bacco
Member
Long and skinny with a short LWL is pretty much the exact opposite of everything in the 2020's.
floater
Super Duper Anarchist
great hull shape? no, no, no, no, noooooooo!
"she is a beauty". https://no-frills-sailing.com/decision_made_omega-42_yacht/
"she is a beauty". https://no-frills-sailing.com/decision_made_omega-42_yacht/
