pironiero
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still better than drag
New boat for solo/double for inshore, Vic-Maui, Transpac and cruising
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slug zitski
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Without endplate the rudders need to be large to compensate for inefficiency ….drag
Nothing is easy
giegs
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Are there any assemblies that hit a better balance between removeability and efficiency? Does that just run into more complexity and weight faster than it's worth pursuing?
slug zitski
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seems that all solutions are ..special purpose , not general purpose
those tilt up rudders on the ocean speedsters are to reduce parasitic drag, not survive a collision …
the variable depth rudders or for occasional navigation in shallow water
to survive a collision …water proof bulkhead, emergency rudder seems to be the best solution
I don’t know …plenty of talented , clever people thinking about rudders
seems that all solutions are ..special purpose , not general purpose
those tilt up rudders on the ocean speedsters are to reduce parasitic drag, not survive a collision …
the variable depth rudders or for occasional navigation in shallow water
to survive a collision …water proof bulkhead, emergency rudder seems to be the best solution
dreamingwet
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Still for sale… now at $150,000 I bet that they now regret not taking my offer…
Irrational 14
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Probably not. I'm sure they're still enjoying the boat at a fraction of a new Bieker Riptide.
Roleur
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Is that the Riptide 30?
TheMentat
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Yup... they updated the pic on the website. I guess they splashed a Mk3:
Riptide 30 - Bieker Boats
The Riptide 30 is the newest member in our family of Riptide designs. Key features of the Riptide concept are: An easy to handle and simple gravity driven water ballast system that allows the boat to be super light downwind and in light air yet powerful upwind and reaching with a small crew. A...
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I'm not questioning Paul's credentials with rudders, but those rudders look disproportionately small!
Cool boats!
Trevor B
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That’s a beautifully built and sorted Riptide-30. The first one ever built, so I’d guess it’s a mk1…
Roleur
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The Riptide 30 is signed up for Transpac, yes?
Irrational 14
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Correct
dreamingwet
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Nothing like enjoying a boat you started asking for $250K, 8-9 months ago and now asking for $150K and still not selling.
That 30 is looking good, I always liked his off the main vain windows/port holes.. Is she sailing already? Water ballasted?
Check out the new Ran. Big rudders are over rated when you have two!Yup... they updated the pic on the website. I guess they splashed a Mk3:
Riptide 30 - Bieker Boats
The Riptide 30 is the newest member in our family of Riptide designs. Key features of the Riptide concept are: An easy to handle and simple gravity driven water ballast system that allows the boat to be super light downwind and in light air yet powerful upwind and reaching with a small crew. A...
I'm not questioning Paul's credentials with rudders, but those rudders look disproportionately small!
Cool boats!
Irrational 14
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Hans Genthe
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Depends on the average wind speed and courses. A single rudder produces more lift upwind. More VMG in light and medium air. It is a weapon at the start.
