New Columbia 32

tweaker

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So Yesterday was a big day for the New Columbia 32, it debued in the Islands race and due to light winds it DNFed along with a lot of other boats. Inquiring minds want to know a race report and impressions about the boat? Hey Vince what are your thoughts about the boat in actual racing conditions although poor ones at that? Results are here:http://www.sdyc.org/raceinfo/results12/islands_race_overall.htm

 

opusone

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So Yesterday was a big day for the New Columbia 32, it debued in the Islands race and due to light winds it DNFed along with a lot of other boats. Inquiring minds want to know a race report and impressions about the boat? Hey Vince what are your thoughts about the boat in actual racing conditions although poor ones at that? Results are here:http://www.sdyc.org/raceinfo/results12/islands_race_overall.htm
I was looking at that also - and why do they rate 45 - that is FT10 area - and this is not as fast as an FT10.

Perhaps it is just a provisional until the boat gets properly rated.

Cheers,

opusone

 
I was looking at that also - and why do they rate 45 - that is FT10 area - and this is not as fast as an FT10.

Perhaps it is just a provisional until the boat gets properly rated.

Cheers,

opusone
The PHRF SoCal website shows "NO NAME YET, s/n _____ (Columbia 32C) Initial Rating" as item #5 for the rating portion of the tommorow's February 21st meeting so I'm guessing the 45 rating was just an off the cuff rating given to allow them to race in that one particular race and nothing more.

 
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Overbored

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why would it not be as fast as an FT 10? it is dam near the same boat. same size, weight, sail. Everything that is different is in inches. It might even be faster

 
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opusone

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why would it not be as fast as an FT 10? it is dam near the same boat. same size, weight, sail. Everything that is different is in inches. It might even be faster
FT is:

Specifications

LOA 32.65' (9.96 m.)

DWL 30.31' (9.24 m.)

Beam 9.15' (2.78 m.)

BWL 6.8' (2.07 m.)

Draft 7.62' (2.32 m.)

Keel up: 3.28' (1.00 m.)

Disp half load 4,900 lbs. (1985 kg.)

Ballast

1,918 lbs. (870 Kg)

D/L 81.09

RM @ 1 Deg 427 ft/lbs

Mainsaill 402.57 sq. ft. (37.4 m2)

Jib (L.P. 105 %) 251.87 sq. ft. (23.4 m2)

Asymmetric Spinnaker 1,149.58 sq. ft. (106.8 m2)

ISP 45.28' (13.802 m.)

I 39.28' (11.974 m.)

J 12.12' (3.696 m.)

P 40.16' (12.243 m.)

E 14.89'' (4.540 m.)

Columbia 32 is:

Specifications

LOA: 32.0 ft

LWL: 27.0 ft

Beam: 10.13 ft

Draft (keel up): 2.17 ft

Draft (keel down): 7.5 ft

Displacement: 3850 lbs.

Sail Area (Triangles) : 512 sf.

Ballast 1739 lbs.

S/D 33.6

L/D 86.30

ISP 12.8

P 11..58

J 3.83

E 4.5

JC 5.33

The FT is heavier but with a more powerful sail plan - and a meter taller rig - more horse power and more RM.

We will have to see when the results come in....

Cheers,

opusone

 

Oxygen Mask

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Look at that waterline diff, 3.3' diff and 140 ft sq more sail area.

Not the same boats.
Waterline is perhaps the least useful measurement to compare.

Once either boat is loaded with beer, railmeat, and moving at more than 2 knots the LOA and LWL will be the same. Waterline as measured only exists at the dock.

Or, you might draw a different conclusion - the boat with less waterline, presumeably due to more rear overhang, once loaded, might drag its ass less in light air. Hence faster.

 
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Polaris

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Provisional ratings are usually punishing unless your new boat has a "J" in front of it.

 

SailDry

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So, from its debut in the Islands race are we to assume it is not a light air boat? It wasn't that light for SoCal. We never saw less than 5kts for more than 20 min.s
Right place, right time or a big rig. We played with the wind seeker for about 45 minutes around 4 in the morning.

 

solosailor

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Not what I'd though I'd see. In Norcal a Farr 30 rates 54, 24 downwind, Synergy 1000 is 45, like 15 downwind, J90 48, etc. So is this new 32ft carbon boat that weighs 1k less than a Synergy or Mumm 30 is slower? Is the rig that short?
 

opusone

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Not what I'd though I'd see. In Norcal a Farr 30 rates 54, 24 downwind, Synergy 1000 is 45, like 15 downwind, J90 48, etc. So is this new 32ft carbon boat that weighs 1k less than a Synergy or Mumm 30 is slower? Is the rig that short?
Solo -

NorCal rates boats a little more aggressively off the wind than SoCal - ie: J125 rates -30 NorCal and -6 SoCal.

Cheers,

opusone

 
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