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New Cubed - First Supermaxi Since Speedboat

JL92S

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I think the previous largest sail went to Kokomo 3 at around 2300 square metres image.jpg

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Abbo

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So perhaps a closing of the gap re Oats vs Comanche? Oats has had to reduce the DSS Foil so now they are out of modifications. Comanche builds a monster running kite, I'd say things are evening up if they already weren't. The tension is building, not long to an accurate weather forecast...Ragamuffin the surprise packet..
I thought Oat new dss foil was bigger?

 

Wildboats

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So perhaps a closing of the gap re Oats vs Comanche? Oats has had to reduce the DSS Foil so now they are out of modifications. Comanche builds a monster running kite, I'd say things are evening up if they already weren't. The tension is building, not long to an accurate weather forecast...Ragamuffin the surprise packet..
Richards also revealed that a new, maximum sized upwind “Code Zero” headsail, which is scheduled to arrive from America on Thursday, would complete Wild Oats XI’s sail inventory for the race.

 

SCANAS

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So perhaps a closing of the gap re Oats vs Comanche? Oats has had to reduce the DSS Foil so now they are out of modifications. Comanche builds a monster running kite, I'd say things are evening up if they already weren't. The tension is building, not long to an accurate weather forecast...Ragamuffin the surprise packet..
I thought Oat new dss foil was bigger?They have reduced it to fit back inside the hull to avoid drag.

& yep, time on the water & a seriously big kite are eroding WOXI's advantage.

 

Schakel

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Looks like Comanche will be running with a proper loose luff, downwind kite... All 1,100 metres of it!!!

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thats a hell of a rag, and great proportions, love to see a time lapse vid of its production.

hey, what boat would have a bigger kite than this ????? J-class ? ? ? none ??
Mirabella V had a monster set of sails
What are the chances of blowing this kite?

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Here some other beautiful flying gennakers

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wntl

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Quite a few Dubois's (40-55m range) racing regularly on the superyacht circuit (bucket,palma,Sardinia) are carrying chutes from 1600-1900 m2, such as Ganesha,Twizzle,lady b, Zefira (A2 1950m2) salperton, Kokomo, ohana, bliss. All with an inflatable bucket/ sock system and plenty of flow in the hydraulics (gen sets and PTO powered up for hoists and gybes) however Commanche is defiantly at the big end of town for no powered winches

 
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RATM

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I remember a section of DC's book "No Excuse to Lose" when he talks about doing the SORC (multi week event) on a boat that decided to carry an oversized headsail (190% ?) and how it stayed in the bag the entire time and they carried the rating hit from St. Petersburg to Nassau.

What's next... a spin pole and a symmetrical kite?

 

ctutmark

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10835348_10152434213141673_258657537533518165_o.jpg Any speculation on why there is what appears to be a Southern Spars style reaching strut receiver at the butt of the mast in this pic?

 

MR.CLEAN

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Good to see, they would have been fucked without it.
Was Abbo's call from the start..! either that or watch Oats sail over the sunset. Good call. And very relaxed reply mate, suppose that comes from knowing your right..!
Felt like everyone was off their medication for a while there. I guess common-sense is not all that common.

Anyone know for sure if Oat's A4 is loose luffed too?
IMO you were well within it until you started to talk about 'modern racing multihills' and loose-luffed sails.

 

r.finn

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Good to see, they would have been fucked without it.
Was Abbo's call from the start..! either that or watch Oats sail over the sunset. Good call. And very relaxed reply mate, suppose that comes from knowing your right..!
Felt like everyone was off their medication for a while there. I guess common-sense is not all that common.

Anyone know for sure if Oat's A4 is loose luffed too?
IMO you were well within it until you started to talk about 'modern racing multihills' and loose-luffed sails.
^ yup^

 

Abbo

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Yeah I know. And the only examples I gave were a multi national champion and a Brisbane to Gladstone winner. Clearly those blokes have no idea what they are doing. I'll tell 'em that the blokes on sailing anarchy reckon they are doing it wrong..... and they will laugh all the way home to their bulging trophy cabinets.

All I ever said was it was open to debate for multis. Which quite clearly it is. I've given two high profile examples, how much more fucking proof do you need?

 
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Sailbydate

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Good to see, they would have been fucked without it.
Was Abbo's call from the start..! either that or watch Oats sail over the sunset. Good call. And very relaxed reply mate, suppose that comes from knowing your right..!
Felt like everyone was off their medication for a while there. I guess common-sense is not all that common.

Anyone know for sure if Oat's A4 is loose luffed too?
IMO you were well within it until you started to talk about 'modern racing multihills' and loose-luffed sails.
^ yup^
Ha, ha. Round two coming up.

 

Soley

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10835348_10152434213141673_258657537533518165_o.jpgAny speculation on why there is what appears to be a Southern Spars style reaching strut receiver at the butt of the mast in this pic?
Just remembered seeing this pole in the first Comanche sailing video. Does it look like what you'd expect to be plugged into that receiver?

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The pole for the AVS test is normally attached to the edge of the deck. You are trying to create the biggest lever arm possible.

 

MR.CLEAN

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Yeah I know. And the only examples I gave were a multi national champion and a Brisbane to Gladstone winner.
Problem wasn't the people. It was a cultural difference in understanding between what 'modern racing multis' means to you and to me.

 
10835348_10152434213141673_258657537533518165_o.jpgAny speculation on why there is what appears to be a Southern Spars style reaching strut receiver at the butt of the mast in this pic?
Just remembered seeing this pole in the first Comanche sailing video. Does it look like what you'd expect to be plugged into that receiver?

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The pole for the AVS test is normally attached to the edge of the deck. You are trying to create the biggest lever arm possible.

What I meant to ask is: was this pole just borrowed for the stability test or could it be the reaching strut ctutmark is suggesting?

 
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