no more Miami to Havana Race

[dacapo]

The State Department announced that "going forward, the United States will prohibit US travelers from going to Cuba under the previous 'group people-to-people educational' travel authorization. In addition, the United States will no longer permit visits to Cuba via passenger and recreational vessels, including cruise ships and yachts, and private and corporate aircraft."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/politics/us-cuba-travel-restrictions/index.html

 

[HuronBouy]

The State Department announced that "going forward, the United States will prohibit US travelers from going to Cuba under the previous 'group people-to-people educational' travel authorization. In addition, the United States will no longer permit visits to Cuba via passenger and recreational vessels, including cruise ships and yachts, and private and corporate aircraft."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/politics/us-cuba-travel-restrictions/index.html

That policy will break the Cuban people's  will and democracy and capitalism will be established within a week. 

What fucking nonsense 

 

[dacapo]

That policy will break the Cuban people's  will and democracy and capitalism will be established within a week. 

What fucking nonsense 

yep, the hundreds of thousands of American's spending billions in tourism there is no good .........

 

[badlatitude]

"Land of the free" Bah

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

It isn't the OFAC regulation that shuts us down.  We do not race under people to people anyway.  What will shut the race down is the Commerce Department requiring export permits for vessels traveling to Cuba even though they are not being exported and will be returning.  The draft of that rule is not out yet.  A draft of the OFAC rule is out and it doesn't touch the Public Performance/Amateur Athletic event category.  

Thank Little Marco for this.  

Theoretically, if someone were to participate in an amateur athletic event in Havana, they could travel there...just not by boat. Or they could marry their Cuban girlfriend and go whenever they want....

 

[Olsonist]

Jeff will be by shortly to suggest we invade to prevent them from attacking. Guy will be concerned yet optimistic. Tom will say this doesn't violate his 2A rights; so he's good with it.

 

[badlatitude]

It isn't the OFAC regulation that shuts us down.  We do not race under people to people anyway.  What will shut the race down is the Commerce Department requiring export permits for vessels traveling to Cuba even though they are not being exported and will be returning.  The draft of that rule is not out yet.  A draft of the OFAC rule is out and it doesn't touch the Public Performance/Amateur Athletic event category.  

Thank Little Marco for this.  

Theoretically, if someone were to participate in an amateur athletic event in Havana, they could travel there...just not by boat. Or they could marry their Cuban girlfriend and go whenever they want....

So, does this affect the Cuban vote in 2020?

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

So, does this affect the Cuban vote in 2020?

of course.  It gets the older Cuban vote locked up, and some of the younger, though word is that the younger generations find this stuff stupid.  

Give the embargo a chance to work.  A few more decades and it will happen!  Just like tax cuts creating jobs, just give it time.  Stay the course!

 

[d'ranger]

On the bright side the rest of the world says thanks for a Trump Free Zone.

 

[Not for nothing]

I guess trump wasn't allowed to build condo's or casino's there , as the cuban's wanted the money up front ,so he couldn't file bankrupty.

what a great deal maker!

 

[Saorsa]

I guess trump wasn't allowed to build condo's or casino's there , as the cuban's wanted the money up front ,so he couldn't file bankrupty.

what a great deal maker!

Anybody can build condos or hotels there.  As long as a Cuban owns a majority interest and the Cuban government operates the place.

There are actually billions being invested in Cuba,  It just doesn't seem to show up much in general life.  I'm sorry, everyday Cuban life.  The Generals do real good.

There are a lot of lines to read between here.

 

[Mrleft8]

Funny that Canadians, Brits, Germans, etc. all go there, exclaim what a lovely place it is..... And US Citizens could for a few months..... But now it's the same old "CUBA BAD! NO CAN GO THERE! DIE" thing....

I'm pretty sure it's because Trump, and his Elk are no more welcome than Meyer Lansky and Al Capone were.....

 

[Ishmael]

Funny that Canadians, Brits, Germans, etc. all go there, exclaim what a lovely place it is..... And US Citizens could for a few months..... But now it's the same old "CUBA BAD! NO CAN GO THERE! DIE" thing....

I'm pretty sure it's because Trump, and his Elk are no more welcome than Meyer Lansky and Al Capone were.....

I'm sure trump would like to make it illegal to go to Puerto Rico too. I bet Steven Miller has a file folder full of ideas.

 

[Mrleft8]

Let's face it... Puerto Rico is juss a little Cuba.... With a little Dominican influence...... And maybe San Juan has lots of Yanqui dollars, but the ress is juss a shit hole!

 Look at Arecibo! Nothing but rubble mang!.... Juss a shit hole!

 

[Olsonist]

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

I think we should invade them not to prevent them from attacking us, but because if we’re going to nation build around the world, might as well do it close to home.  Save on all those deployment costs.   Besides, we can use it as a jumping off point for when we invade Venezuela.  

But most importantly I might be able to finally get a decent Cuban sandwich without having to go back to Miami.   

End the embargo and the whole island will be speaking English in six months. The Cuban sandwiches there are not good...at least the ones between two pieces of bread. 

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

Jeff will be by shortly to suggest we invade to prevent them from attacking. Guy will be concerned yet optimistic. Tom will say this doesn't violate his 2A rights; so he's good with it.

Try to keep up.

The right to travel and the second amendment are very much related, as the idiotic NYC case before the Supreme Court is in the process of showing.

The Cert Petition
 

The question presented is:

Whether the City’s ban on transporting a licensed, locked, and unloaded handgun to a home or shooting range outside city limits is consistent with the Second Amendment, the Commerce Clause, and the constitutional right to travel.

Not presented to the court, but still worth wondering about: why are hoplophobes so darn fearful that they can't tolerate a licensed, locked, and unloaded gun being carried outside city limits?

 

[bridhb]

I think we should invade them not to prevent them from attacking us, but because if we’re going to nation build around the world, might as well do it close to home.  Save on all those deployment costs.   Besides, we can use it as a jumping off point for when we invade Venezuela.  

But most importantly I might be able to finally get a decent Cuban sandwich without having to go back to Miami.   

Mi Apa in Alachua has a good one.  Will save you 350 miles of southing.

 

[Sol Rosenberg]

I grew up in Miami and grew up on Cuban Sammi's there back in the 70s as a kid.  I went back to the city for the first time in 2014 since we moved away in '77.  The only thing I could think about was having a good cuban sammi from either South Beach or the Little Havana area near Downtown where my dad worked.  We never made it downtown but I tried a couple on South beach.  Meh.  It wasn't what I remembered.  

Still the best Cuban (sandwich) I've had as an adult was at a little back alley Deli in Key West near Trumbo Point.  IIRC It was on 5th St a couple of Blocks away from the Navy annex.  Not sure if the Navy is even still there at Trumbo Pt.  I cannot remember the name, but it was a little tiny grocery store (about the size of most people's living room) with a small little deli counter in the far back.  I recall 5 Brothers Deli in KW was pretty good too.  But this little grocery store was amazing.  I doubt its even still there.  

Next time in Miami head to Sergio’s. https://www.sergios.com/

reliable.